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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:33:53 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

quoted 4 lines Sometime back I snagged a SE track off a friend's CD and unfortunately I

>Sometime back I snagged a SE track off a friend's CD and unfortunately I >didn't right down any info about it. It starts out w/ rain sounds, has a >straightahead beat, a kinda tribal vocal sample, and housey piano - about 4 >1/2 minutes long. Does anyone have an idea what it's called?

Was it an orignal CD, or a CD-R he'd made? I went through my copies of Kitchen and Present, some R&S compilations, a couple of EPs and even some Orb stuff, but couldn't find anything similar (although the new 'Mickey Mars' track on 'U.F.Off' is full of ethnic vocal samples and lush drum & bass progressive percussion -- no pianos though. Oh, and a few tracks off 'Orbus Terrarum' may qualify). My copy of Via Nostra is still on order, so I can't check that -- and there's a couple of other SE bits & pieces I haven't got. However, it's possible it might be a track from their 'Turn-on' EP, which I believe was only ever issued as a limited (500 copies) promo on ZTT Records in 1991. I've just played my copy and there's quite a few tracks with rain-forest/bird samples, have "straightahead beats" and housey piano. Not really tribal vocals though -- some male singer, although there are snatches of female vocals. *VERY* different from the ambient/techno style SE we've come to know and love -- their old style was more club-orientated techno, a little bit similar to what 808 State were doing at the same time. /\/)ark http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

At 08:28 PM 11/10/98 GMT, Mark Stevens wrote:

quoted 8 lines Was it an orignal CD, or a CD-R he'd made? I went through my copies of

>Was it an orignal CD, or a CD-R he'd made? I went through my copies of >Kitchen and Present, some R&S compilations, a couple of EPs and even >some Orb stuff, but couldn't find anything similar (although the new >'Mickey Mars' track on 'U.F.Off' is full of ethnic vocal samples and >lush drum & bass progressive percussion -- no pianos though. Oh, and a >few tracks off 'Orbus Terrarum' may qualify). My copy of Via Nostra is >still on order, so I can't check that -- and there's a couple of other >SE bits & pieces I haven't got.

Sorry, I should have been clearer. It came off a compilation whose name I've forgotten. In the absence further data, I decided to use CDDB to try to get a list of likely suspects. Here are the non-album SE entries (a lot more than I guessed): In Order To Dance 5/Disc 3 - Alzir Berlin Unwrapped -Flat And Andless Highway & Landscape - Quaila Tresor 3/New Directions In Global Techno - Monolith Lost In Infinity/Experiment One - The Return Of Zindato Cafe del Mar - Sundance Ibiza Afterhours - Sundance Trance Europe Express 3 - Whoshe Volume 8 - Love 2 Love Dimensions in Ambience 2 - love 2 love Never Mind the Distortion II - Nav Katze/Borderless #2 (Sun Electric mix) Big Hard Disc - Yello/Do It (blessed and beaten mix) Tresor 2 - 3MB/Illuminism (Sun Electric Edit) I know it's not a remix, and I know it's not Love 2 Love or Whoshe. Note that the Yello remix is different from the "spinout & mellow mix" on the CDS.

quoted 9 lines However, it's possible it might be a track from their 'Turn-on' EP,

>However, it's possible it might be a track from their 'Turn-on' EP, >which I believe was only ever issued as a limited (500 copies) promo >on ZTT Records in 1991. I've just played my copy and there's quite a >few tracks with rain-forest/bird samples, have "straightahead beats" >and housey piano. Not really tribal vocals though -- some male singer, >although there are snatches of female vocals. *VERY* different from >the ambient/techno style SE we've come to know and love -- their old >style was more club-orientated techno, a little bit similar to what >808 State were doing at the same time.

Would any of the above track names match anything from Turn-on? While we're in SE mode, does anyone know if the following is just tracks from Kitchen: "Sun Electric" (1993); 2 x 12" clear vinyl on R & S/Apollo Records - limited edition??? Thanks in advance Che PS Does anyone have In Order To Dance 5/Disc 3 & a CDR burner? If so, I'd like to trade!

I can help rule out a couple of these.

quoted 1 line Big Hard Disc - Yello/Do It (blessed and beaten mix)

> Big Hard Disc - Yello/Do It (blessed and beaten mix)

It's definitely not this. The vocal samples "beaten" and "blessed and beaten by love" go on through much of this long track. No pianos, rain, etc.

quoted 1 line Would any of the above track names match anything from Turn-on?

> Would any of the above track names match anything from Turn-on?

Nope, but the song "Turn-On" is the closest candidate so far. Here is the corrected info I recently ubmitted to Lazlo for the ZTT discography: Sun Electric: I Feel Free [5 Aug 1991] promo ep single 12": 1991 UK (ZTT; SAM 781) [promo; pic labels] 6:19 I Feel Free ["Ready Made"] [remixer: Thomas Fehlmann] 5:35 I Feel Free ["Delerium"] 3:25 I Feel Free 4:55 Turn-On (137 bpm) 4:33 Turn-On (126 bpm) There was also the "Red Summer" promo on ZTT, but none of these mixes fit the description, either. I've put up excerpts from Turn-On (137 bpm) and Delerium at http://www.hyperreal.org/~mike/pub/mp3/ for you to check out.

quoted 3 lines While we're in SE mode, does anyone know if the following is just tracks

> While we're in SE mode, does anyone know if the following is just tracks > from Kitchen: "Sun Electric" (1993); 2 x 12" clear vinyl on R & S/Apollo > Records - limited edition???

The tracks on this are: 6:33 Pitcheon 5:02 O'Locco (beyond) 4:17 Osram 418 5:27 Osram 527 6:20 Sarotti [same as on Kitchen] 8:54 Up The Drain [same as on Kitchen] 5:51 O'Locco (beauty) ["beauty o'locco" on Kitchen] 6:39 O'Locco (australiana) The Osrams are different than Osram 509 on Kitchen. None of them are the song you're looking for. - Mike ______________________________________________________________________ Mike Brown / Hyperreal | Director, Hyperreal Music Archive PO Box 61334 | http://www.hyperreal.org/music/ Denver CO 80206-8334 USA | hire me. rИsumИ = www.hyperreal.org/~mike/

Che wrote:

quoted 2 lines Cafe del Mar - Sundance

> Cafe del Mar - Sundance > Ibiza Afterhours - Sundance

This is it. Cafe del Mar is the original UK album on React; Ibiza Afterhours is the US version released through Moonshine. Sorry I didn't notice that I had this till after I sent my other post. -Mike

On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:23:54 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

quoted 3 lines In the absence further data, I decided to use CDDB to try to get a list of

>In the absence further data, I decided to use CDDB to try to get a list of >likely suspects. Here are the non-album SE entries (a lot more than I >guessed):

quoted 1 line In Order To Dance 5/Disc 3 - Alzir

>In Order To Dance 5/Disc 3 - Alzir

You can rule that one out. Haven't heard any of the others!

quoted 1 line Would any of the above track names match anything from Turn-on?

>Would any of the above track names match anything from Turn-on?

Nah, tracks names from Turn-on are: Turn-on (126 bpm), Turn-on (137 bpm), Ready Made, Delirium, I Feel Free. Most of them have vocals.

quoted 2 lines PS Does anyone have In Order To Dance 5/Disc 3 & a CDR burner? If so, I'd

>PS Does anyone have In Order To Dance 5/Disc 3 & a CDR burner? If so, I'd >like to trade!

I've got In Order to Dance 5 and an MD recorder, if that helps. /\/)ark http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/