IDM Mailing Archive

---Brock Suter <brock@alchemyfx.com> wrote:

quoted 1 line ps: I've been accused by friends of never posting > anything to

> ps: I've been accused by friends of never posting > anything to

IDM unless it was d&b related! One of > the main reasons is because there has been so much > going on in the jungle world and not much in the IDM > realm, IMHO...but alas, look for more 'idm' related > posts from me in the future! I agree with what Brock said about there is more going on in the drum n bass scene. In the past, I have always bought a hell of alot of IDM and Detroit techno, but I buy WAY more drum n bass now. I still give props to labels like SKAM, SCHEMATIC, WARP, PLANET E, etc. They put out quality releases. But the stuff that really gets my juices flowing has been stuff like Optical, Ed Rush, Dillinja, Dom & Roland, Andy C, etc. Well it's all good. I guess I just like hearing more innovative danceable music than stuff to relax too. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Will Samuels wrote: | I agree with what Brock said about there is more going on in the drum | n bass scene. In the past, I have always bought a hell of alot of IDM | and Detroit techno, but I buy WAY more drum n bass now. I find it kinda amusing that my friends who have been buying drum n bass for years have cut their purchasing of that kind of stuff right right down. There's a lot of talk around me, and in stuff I read, about drum n bass hitting a real creative low. Anyway, I'm not really gonna take one side or another, cos I don't like much drum n bass full stop. However, the above fits with my general observation that the focus in drum n bass has really changed somewhere along the way (the Good Looking thing, and the No U-Turn thing in pretty much the opposite direction). So a lot of those who liked whatever it was that drum n bass used to be predominantly about seem to be dumping it, and a new group of listeners are picking it up getting into the new sound. I find something about the production of recent drum n bass to be really "head ache-y". I dunno what it is? More lower mids coming through? Lots of distortion? Michael ____________________________________________ "Also, he has automatic evasion devices" http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~michael/jj.html

quoted 2 lines down. There's a lot of talk around me, and in stuff I read, about drum n

> down. There's a lot of talk around me, and in stuff I read, about drum n > bass hitting a real creative low.

there's so much being released right now that soon enough someone's going to win a grammy and the acceptablility bar will be raised back up. drum and bass producers are simplifying things for the dancefloor which has a side effect of giving confidence to producers who wouldn't have been able to compete in the days of fux0red breaks. i think some people see the tons of 12 coming out every week as evidence of a creative explosion, while others see that expansion as milking it. eric onnow: alt.frequencies.3(worm interface)

brian j tang wrote:

quoted 6 lines I so disagree with you. Jungle is very static and rehashed. I used to be a

> I so disagree with you. Jungle is very static and rehashed. I used to be a > big fan a bit over a year ago, when I began to notice that these tunes were > more and more the same repetive shlock. Sure the first time I heard some > driving dark tech-step I was amazed and psyched by the energy it could create > on a dance floor. But it soon became boring. And now it just gives me a > headache if I'm forced to listen to it for more then 10 minutes.

I think that you're going to be surprised by some of the upcoming stuff by Virus, Ram, No U turn, etc. I must admit that I've felt the same way for sometime, and my weekly record purchases have declined appropriately, but not so much as it has in the realm of IDM (which has been close to nil). Fortunately, I've just got my hands on a bunch of stuff, both on tape and test-press that's renewed my enthusiasm in the genre. All I can say is just wait, 1999 is going to be a smashing year for drum n bass!

quoted 1 line I'm looking forward to not going to Grooverider and Fabio this thursday.

> I'm looking forward to not going to Grooverider and Fabio this thursday.

I agree with you there...I didn't go see them when they played here in LA last week. AFAIK, Groove is holding d&b back more then he's pushing it forward. peace out, brock out.