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1998-07-30 16:01Alex Reynolds (idm) Ae _Untitled_ Review [long]
└─ 1998-07-30 17:53siliconvortex Re: (idm) Ae _Untitled_ Review [long]
1998-07-30 16:12WARD Giles RE: (idm) Ae _Untitled_ Review [long]
1998-07-30 17:10jif Re: (idm) Ae _Untitled_ Review [long]
└─ 1998-07-30 18:03Adam Huffman Re: (idm) Ae _Untitled_ Review [long]
1998-07-30 19:19Brad Berger Re[2]: (idm) Ae _Untitled_ Review [long]
├─ 1998-07-30 23:45Solenoid Re: Re[2]: (idm) Ae _Untitled_ Review [long]
└─ 1998-07-31 06:11the artist formerly known as salvador dali (idm) sorta off topic- meat beat manifesto
└─ 1998-07-31 11:20Nate Harrison \[Toshok Laboratories\] Re: (idm) sorta off topic- meat beat manifesto
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1998-07-30 16:01Alex ReynoldsAutechre, _Untitled_ (_LP5_), WARP CD66 -- A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Develop
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Autechre, _Untitled_ (_LP5_), WARP CD66 -- A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Development from _Chiastic Slide_ to _Untitled_ >> _Chiastic Slide_ is the first electronic release to seriously consider the implications of the collaborative artwork. Booth/Brown are represented (quite properly) by tDR'ed package design as two channels of bits of information, which exist in an orbit of attraction and bifurcation. At the point of perfect overlap, at the aural chiasma, the Listener is witness to Autechre as a single unit. When Ae is "as one", Booth and Brown have "got a groove on"; each are on the same level of communication with one another as creative elements. The end result is the "boogie", "dance", or "slide" -- the "chiastic slide" -- the album which the Listener has the privilege of hearing. The tracks themselves serve only to reflect individual events of cooperation and conflict between the two constituent artists. Autechre's tracks invoke varied and intense imagery. While this imagery is a largely subjective interpretation by the Listener, arguably, several valid, consistent themes are invoked. Of particular relevance in reviewing _Untitled_ is the theme of the cycle of birth, life, and death of a machine, and the enveloping framework for that cycle. Different tracks may explore the emotional or rational elements of one circuit of birth and death, or may explore the tragic and joyful elements of the system wherein this cycle repeats. Still, the focus remains on the interrelationship -- the "slide" -- of the machine and the orbit in which it participates. Booth and Brown move from the "self-centered" -- while humble -- imagery of the selves wrapped in the artistic process of _Chiastic Slide_. The perspective shifts to view the interconnected system of machines which birth, live, play, cry, and die -- of which they themselves are a part -- and the ambience of that system: the environment in which the "slide" of life and death occurs. The _Untitled_ compact disc packaging offers some clue as to the direction to be taken with these concepts. The Futura typeface used on the case and on the liner card was developed early in this century with rational intent: a sans serif with equal weight throughout the body and stem of the letter. It is used here with minimal kerning; the liner card consists of black, right-justified text on a white background. Black and white. Rational typeface. Almost no space between characters. The packaging is an entirely minimal expression, as is the disc itself: a white-ringed circle. Natural systems evolve towards minimal, locally efficient structures against a backdrop of chaotic noise. Autechre's music is an aural impression of this idea. Let's examine the tracks on an individual basis: acroyear2 (1:8"39') The Animal is born into the world via a short bleeping session, which develops quickly into the manic frenzy of survival. Always on edge -- escaping death from starvation, predators, until senescence reclaims the animal into the noise of the abyss that reshuffles the protagonist back into the system. 777 (2:5"49') Monochromatic, driving beats; reminiscent of Namlook's "Atmospheric Atoms" in its single-minded intensity. A chord travels in and out of the system six times throughout the track, changing the beat structure each time in a slight but noticeable way, removing and replacing elements. Via an echo device, the beat system collapses under its own weight. rae (3:7"13') Rolling bass drum triplets in conjunction with sad chords give the track an indirect "Super Mario Bros." feel. The concept of extra lives in a video game suggests the supra-individual perspective of the Player, and the timing slows by half to provide a closer examination of each distinct "life" in the "game". melve (4:1"14') Silly, childish ramblings. An unfortunate piss-take if there was one. vose in (5:5"21') Quick drop into noise and harsh light and darkness. Broken machines living in an orbit of quiet desperation, striving towards something better. Collapse to slow ambient examination of the system... fold4, wrap5 (6:4"3') ...which transitions into a decaying and regenerative arrangement of sublime and melancholy notes. The "slide" collapses and a new dance emerges from the ashes. Intense and beautiful example of _Amber_'s "teartear" turned emotionally 180 degrees and perpetually stood end-on-end. under BOAC (7:6"17') Static forms the background to a funky, jazzy freeform demonstration of what tub-thumping really is about. Losing one's identity into the intense, concentrated rhythm, the Listener becomes a part of the cycle. Exhilarating track unlike any other Ae event you've heard before. corc (8:5"50') Driving along the Elan Valley of Wales, with the patter of rain on the windshield, you traverse the tight road nested between mountain ridges -- only narrowly missing hitting sheep to your left and right. Sheer, awe-inspiring beauty in harsh conditions -- life thrives here in spite of the bitter weather. Driving beats overlapped by majestic and despondent notes. caliper remote (9:1"40') A robot arm lying in a dark factory suddenly awakens and feels out its surroundings with innocent curiosity before the plug is pulled by an ignorant security guard. arch carrier (10:6"49') Dark, gothic spires rise from the earth, meeting and interlacing, forming cathedrals of black stone. Generations pass. More buildings arise, pathways interconnect buildings. People are shuffled into buildings and from structure to structure as if the edifices are feeding and sharing their own unique and curious form of nourishment. Camera zooms out to examine a sphere entirely covered by a framework of glass and metal. drane2 (11:23"19') Noise fades out, dominated by a trumpet of varying amplitude. Suggestions of Hong Kong as a harpsichord and trumpet twang each out of phase in a sin(x^2) pattern (the "bouncing ball" effect). Static reverberates in and out. A mute courier from the past, playing a banjo, echoes in on the upbeat. East information collides with West information in a dramatic conclusion. -- The conceptual evolution of Autechre from examining the artists' internal relationship to the minimally-expressed systems and machines around Booth/Brown and their affiliation with this framework: this is the territory charted by _Untitled_. Alex Reynolds July 30, 1998
1998-07-30 17:53siliconvortexOn Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:01:19 -0400, you wrote: >Autechre, _Untitled_ (_LP5_), WARP CD66 >A
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On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:01:19 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 1 line Autechre, _Untitled_ (_LP5_), WARP CD66>Autechre, _Untitled_ (_LP5_), WARP CD66
quoted 2 lines A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Development from _Chiastic Slide_>A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Development from _Chiastic Slide_ >to _Untitled_ >>
and there was i thinking sean and rob were just having a bit of fun with a delay box and nord lead.. hummmmmmmmmm.... it all reminded me a little bit of how 'critics' can go on and on about a grey circle on a striped orange background, trying to attribute to it some enormous statement about Everything they've plucked from thin air. i'm glad the lp fires off your brain cells like this, but what you're saying doesn't mean a great deal to anyone else (or does it, hehehe?!?!). and i thought it would have been obvious that 'arch carrier' is actually about a reservoir standing at 97 degrees on a sheet of blank a3 paper. it just sounds like it.. and also, anyone who gets to hear my idm remix chain track will instantly recognise it as representing a stainless steel swimming pool on top of the babylonian parliament building, as seen in the computer game 'civilisation'. answersonapostcardplease (warppc66lc2070) np: forward the bass - impact all stars at randy's studio 1972-1975 <waves> Subconscious Geography http://www.sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk Records For Sale http://www.sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk/sale CDR Traders' Outpost http://www.sub-con-geo.demon.co.uk/cdr
1998-07-30 16:12WARD Giles> A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Development from _Chiastic > Slide_ > to _Untitl
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quoted 4 lines A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Development from _Chiastic> A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Development from _Chiastic > Slide_ > to _Untitled_ >> >
{snip} Alex, are you taking the piss or what? You have far too much time on your hands.
1998-07-30 17:10jif> > A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Development from _Chiastic > > Slide_ > > to _
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quoted 5 lines A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Development from _Chiastic> > A Developed Analysis of Ae's Conceptual Development from _Chiastic > > Slide_ > > to _Untitled_ >> > > > {snip}
and all the while sean and rob are probably releasing records because they sound good and choosing artwork because it looks good, and wondering what brand of shoes theyre gonna buy when they get their residuals...
1998-07-30 18:03Adam HuffmanOn Thu, Jul 30, 1998 at 01:10:41PM -0400, jif wrote: > > and all the while sean and rob ar
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On Thu, Jul 30, 1998 at 01:10:41PM -0400, jif wrote:
quoted 4 lines and all the while sean and rob are probably releasing records because they> > and all the while sean and rob are probably releasing records because they > sound good and choosing artwork because it looks good, and wondering what > brand of shoes theyre gonna buy when they get their residuals...
I think it's mountain bikes, actually. Nice LP, though. adam
1998-07-30 19:19Brad Berger>it all reminded me a little bit of how 'critics' can go on and on >about a grey circle on
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quoted 6 lines it all reminded me a little bit of how 'critics' can go on and on>it all reminded me a little bit of how 'critics' can go on and on >about a grey circle on a striped orange background, trying to >attribute to it some enormous statement about Everything they've >plucked from thin air. i'm glad the lp fires off your brain cells >like this, but what you're saying doesn't mean a great deal to >anyone else (or does it, hehehe?!?!).
music means different things to different people. for some it is something to discuss qualities such as imagery contained within; some find joy in dissecting musical techniques, such as harmonies, time signatures, and the like; still others ignore these and simply listen to the music because it "sounds good"; there are those that use music to control their emotions, to relax, energize, cheer up, etc. the same is true for any form of art, be it theatre, painting, sculpture, etc. or is music not considered art any more? in regards to geoff's argument that "Most music, and particularly that of Autechre, it is supposed to be an experience--you listen, feel, sense--you're not supposed to sit and pick it apart and analyze, etc." this is nonsense. the idea that there is a wrong way and a right way to enjoy something so subjective as music is ridiculous. -brad
1998-07-30 23:45SolenoidOn Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Brad Berger wrote: > in regards to geoff's argument that "Most music,
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On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Brad Berger wrote:
quoted 3 lines in regards to geoff's argument that "Most music, and particularly> in regards to geoff's argument that "Most music, and particularly > that of Autechre, it is supposed to be an experience--you listen, feel, > sense--you're not supposed to sit and pick it apart and analyze, etc."
quoted 2 lines this is nonsense. the idea that there is a wrong way and a right way to enjoy> this is nonsense. the idea that there is a wrong way and a right way to enjoy > something so subjective as music is ridiculous.
I agree: if someone wants to do some creative writing in response to listenning to some music, this should not be discouraged. This is basic inspiration->action. I don't think you should dis someone's free-spirited creativity, c'mon! People are increasingly cynical, it just becomes self- repression, jeez, I'd rather see a cheesy Autechre-inspired poem than a bunch of "ugh, yeh it is a cool record man, its the shit, so-n-so's lp is no longer the shit, btw, ugh..." and nothing else. Kudos to Alex for his creative post then! solenoid@europa.com <------+
1998-07-31 06:11the artist formerly known as salvador dalihey all, anyone have a release date for the new meat beat manifesto album? i just (finally
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hey all, anyone have a release date for the new meat beat manifesto album? i just (finally!) picked up a copy of 'subliminal sandwich' and i'm just lovin' it. the new single is great too, a nice acid-y kind of thing with some great samples. just wanted to give some props to the awesome jack dangers. -r
1998-07-31 11:20Nate Harrison \[Toshok Laboratories\]John Drumkan would know:) John? Also, check out their site at brainwashed.com. I'm sure th
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John Drumkan would know:) John? Also, check out their site at brainwashed.com. I'm sure there is some info there, though I haven;t been there in a while... Nate On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, the artist formerly known as salvador dali wrote:
quoted 14 lines hey all,> > hey all, > > anyone have a release date for the new meat beat manifesto album? i just > (finally!) picked up a copy of 'subliminal sandwich' and i'm just lovin' > it. the new single is great too, a nice acid-y kind of thing with some > great samples. > > just wanted to give some props to the awesome jack dangers. > > -r > > >