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quoted 2 lines the best on the album, but is ruined by an appalling guitar

>the best on the album, but is ruined by an appalling guitar >solo, putting appalling guitar solos on tracks certainly isnt >experimental, so what exactly are you refering to?

it may not be to everybody's taste, but you don't hear many guitar solos on detroit records (especially ones that are treated and looped and such). hence "experimental." you might say "uncommon" doesn't necessarily equal experimental but that's an semantic argument more than enything else. when i said this was an experimental record, i was referring to songs like "wonderful life" and "home entertainment" - both of which explore fairly new terrain in terms of tempo, song structure, and ambience. three or four songs (e.g. einbahn, they were) are terrible but i've always though 1/2 of it is genius. if you listen to landcruising next to, oh i dunno, animals on wheels or mu-ziq, you might find landcruising pretty staid and conventional. but if you put it on after listening to stuff like "evolution" or "desire" or "galaxy" you'd hear the experimentalism right there. all people usually expect from detroit artists (sadly) is a little bit of funk, some strings, a nice housey beat, maybe some breaks, and sci-fi imagery. the psyche, 69 ,and paperclip have this in spades, but there's isn't much of that on landcruising. it's possible to dislike landcruising for purely musical reasons. but i'm not suggesting that to do so equals some sort of deficient appreciation for the experimental. of course, experimentalism for its own sake hardly equals good music ("drill'n'bass") it's important to arrive at a balance -> a balance that i for one hear in landcruising. that's it. a. (and i. too)

quoted 3 lines the best on the album, but is ruined by an appalling guitar

> >the best on the album, but is ruined by an appalling guitar > >solo, putting appalling guitar solos on tracks certainly isnt > >experimental

quoted 3 lines it may not be to everybody's taste, but you don't hear many guitar solos

> it may not be to everybody's taste, but you don't hear many guitar solos > on detroit records (especially ones that are treated and looped and > such). hence "experimental."

well it's just that guitar solos on techno tracks kind of spoils it for some people, same with vocals. personally i love vocals, but i've always thought that certain tracks that should have been great (cybotron, and half the egyptian lover lp!!) were a bit hard to listen to because of 'creative stylings on guitar' :-) but i love guitars - i just don't think they fit in certain situations. i mean you wouldn't have flamenco in an autechre track. (though if they are reading, try it out...)

quoted 2 lines three or four songs (e.g. einbahn, they were) are terrible but i've

> three or four songs (e.g. einbahn, they were) are terrible but i've > always though 1/2 of it is genius.

tut - einbahn is the best one on there!!!!!

quoted 2 lines if you put it on after listening to stuff like "evolution" or "desire"

> if you put it on after listening to stuff like "evolution" or "desire" > or "galaxy" you'd hear the experimentalism right there.

i always thought evolution was one of the most experimental detroit tracks.. though there is some confusion over which track 'evolution' actually is.. though my bfc lists that track as 'it's a shame' it's called evolution on the relics cd and it's the one kenny larkin ripped off in a major way on his 'nocturnal' track

quoted 2 lines of course, experimentalism for its own sake hardly equals good music

> of course, experimentalism for its own sake hardly equals good music > ("drill'n'bass")

watch your back sonny <waves>