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Season's Greetings to all IDM'ers from the team at Black Dog Productions and Feedback. Special thanks to all of you that bought the "Foundations" compilation to support The Big Issue, and the loyal and discerning fans of The Black Dog(ma). We'll be back in '98! :) Keep the faith, ]<eir / ]<en / ]\/[artin & Company p.s. The feedback massive would like to publicly endorse the remarkable film work of David Cronenberg... if you'd like to see a promo showcasing a variety of his unique creative ideas check out the "Come To Daddy" vid ;-) (and cinematic tip of the year in this office is Atom Egoyan's "The Sweet Hereafter" for some real eye candy). _ _ _ _ |_|_|_| \ feedback communications limited |_|_ _ / PO Box 808, Hook, RG29 1UF, United Kingdom |_|_|_| \ Telephone: +44 (0) 1256-862865 Facsimile: +44 (0) 1256-862182 |_|_____/ internet@feedback.com URL: http://www.feedback.com/tbd/ "Don't use the telephone. People are never ready to answer it. Use Poetry." Jack Kerouac

quoted 3 lines what involvement did Cronenberg have with Come To Daddy? also, the film for

> what involvement did Cronenberg have with Come To Daddy? also, the film for > Naked Lunch was an insult to Burrough's masterpiece and Crash was just an > abortion of a movie.

And this from a fellow who LIKES Atari Teenage Riot? pffft! Take a look at Videodrome and tell me Come to Daddy was not inspired by it. I won't even try to defend Naked Lunch and Crash as they are both works of art and I feel stand on their own as such. During the holiday season while the family is visiting, I do suggest trying to dig up some of the horribly mangled and out of print video copies of Croenenbergs early work floating around at the smaller video stores. Particularly The Brood, with its snowy canadian landscapes and sexless mutant manifestations of psychic energy its the perfect film for the holidays. Watch the movie, you'll see :) gnz.

At 11:29 AM 12/24/97 -0800, Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan wrote:

quoted 12 lines And this from a fellow who LIKES Atari Teenage Riot? pffft! Take a look

> >And this from a fellow who LIKES Atari Teenage Riot? pffft! Take a look >at Videodrome and tell me Come to Daddy was not inspired by it. I won't >even try to defend Naked Lunch and Crash as they are both works of art >and I feel stand on their own as such. During the holiday season while >the family is visiting, I do suggest trying to dig up some of the >horribly mangled and out of print video copies of Croenenbergs early >work floating around at the smaller video stores. Particularly The >Brood, with its snowy canadian landscapes and sexless mutant >manifestations of psychic energy its the perfect film for the holidays. >Watch the movie, you'll see :) >

well.. as for Cronenberg.. like i said, i didn't know what influence over or involvement in Come To Daddy he may of had, so I asked. secondly, i'm not too familiar with his works outside of Naked Lunch & Crash, which were both awful movies and posessed none of the art of the original novels. Crash especially. what an awful movie - nothing more than a porn. it had none of the mystique or shock of Ballard's novel and was just a silly excuse for a film. it's one those career-ending type movies for the actors involved. trash. controversial? pah. and, as for ATR... they're great! like I said, they're not the most inventive musicians but they make up for it with their live energy, something of a rarity in the electronic scene. i get something different out of them, and seeing them live was fun as hell.. yeah, they're not releasing ground-breaking music, but shit.. they're fun. and where else can you see over-privileged middle-class suburbanites screaming "FUCK CAPITALISM!"? certainly not at a RDJ show. =) (not a knock on RDJ, mind you). anyway. i'll try to check out The Brood.. it certainly has to be better than Crash. - wells oliver : s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu "all these things we'll one day swallow whole and fade out again and fade out again"

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quoted 17 lines At 11:29 AM 12/24/97 -0800, Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan wrote:

> At 11:29 AM 12/24/97 -0800, Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan wrote: > > > >And this from a fellow who LIKES Atari Teenage Riot? pffft! Take a look > >at Videodrome and tell me Come to Daddy was not inspired by it. I won't > >even try to defend Naked Lunch and Crash as they are both works of art > >and I feel stand on their own as such. During the holiday season while > >the family is visiting, I do suggest trying to dig up some of the > >horribly mangled and out of print video copies of Croenenbergs early > >work floating around at the smaller video stores. Particularly The > >Brood, with its snowy canadian landscapes and sexless mutant > >manifestations of psychic energy its the perfect film for the holidays. > >Watch the movie, you'll see :) > > > > > not too familiar with his works outside of Naked Lunch & Crash, which were > both awful movies and posessed none of the art of the original novels.

I loved Ballard's early films, particularly Videodrome and Brood. I remember sneaking peaks at Scanners and Videodrome on the Moviechannel when I was a kid and how they blew me away. I looked at all of his films again as an adult and enjoyed them from an objectctive view point as art. I loved Deadringers. When Naked Lunch came out, I could not have been more disappointed. It failed as a Cronenberg film and as a Burroughs novel translated into a film. I didn't see M Butterfly because I was so disappointed in Naked Lunch. Crash was also a huge disappointment. Ballard's novel was extremely cinematic and should have been easy to shoot. It could also have been the inspiration to a film that didn't necessitate the novel as a structure for a screenplay. Crash turned out to be nothing more than a flaccid, non-sexy B-film about sex with no originality or artistic statement. Both Naked Lunch and Crash looked as if Cronenberg was suddenly making B films again but this time he has no artistic voice as a film maker. Very sad.

quoted 1 line Crash especially. what an awful movie - nothing more than a porn.

> Crash especially. what an awful movie - nothing more than a porn.

I wouldn't even call it that. One of my criticisms of it is that it totally lacks eroticism.

quoted 2 lines anyway. i'll try to check out The Brood.. it certainly has to be better

> anyway. i'll try to check out The Brood.. it certainly has to be better > than Crash.

You should definitely check out The Brood, Scanners, Dead Ringers and Videodrome.

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