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At 6:27 PM 4/24/97, Joe Rice wrote:

quoted 6 lines Just a note that Alec Empire didn't fuck with audience when he played in SF

>Just a note that Alec Empire didn't fuck with audience when he played in SF >on Monday like he apparently did in LA. Just straight up hardcore, digital >and otherwise, although I thought the point at which he was playing the >paper labels on the records was a bit much. At any rate, he didn't take any >piss. When I started doing a techno club I never expected to see a mosh pit >there...

The problem wasn't the particular tracks chosen. IMO, the problem lay mostly in his obvious distaste for the audience itself, for the venue, for whatever. This was cheap, lazy DJ'ing masquerading as cutting-edge. The tracks played were of the most obvious "noise-core beginner's kit" variety, and the DJ'ing, on a technical level, just plain sucked. He didn't give a shit, and it showed. As for the paper-label trick: Aphex played sandpaper two years ago. Been there, done that, send him home.

quoted 6 lines Shizuo is the other guy mentioned - his CD is worth checking out, but his

> >Shizuo is the other guy mentioned - his CD is worth checking out, but his >tendancy to clip every possible input kept the live translation from >working as well. I'm by no means a fan of the genre, but Shizuo does some >interesting tracks and usually keeps from sliding into angst-noise monotony. >

Shizuo: very drunk German guy swaying back and forth behind his microphone, yelling "Fuck You" over and over, while randomly triggering poorly-programmed beats. Reminded me of the old Bill Murray lounge-singer routine from Saturday Night Live, only he was dead serious. -Phil [----------] [---] [-----] [-----] [-----] [----------] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [----------] [----------] [---] [---] [----------] [----------] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [--------] [-----] [-----] [---] [-----] [----------] Home is where the stereo is!

Just a note that Alec Empire didn't fuck with audience when he played in SF on Monday like he apparently did in LA. Just straight up hardcore, digital and otherwise, although I thought the point at which he was playing the paper labels on the records was a bit much. At any rate, he didn't take any piss. When I started doing a techno club I never expected to see a mosh pit there... Shizuo is the other guy mentioned - his CD is worth checking out, but his tendancy to clip every possible input kept the live translation from working as well. I'm by no means a fan of the genre, but Shizuo does some interesting tracks and usually keeps from sliding into angst-noise monotony. Joe (:Joe Rice:________________:ambient@netcom.com:______________:joe@ednet.net:) (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) (: anything like it!" :)

quoted 11 lines The problem wasn't the particular tracks chosen. IMO, the problem lay

> > >The problem wasn't the particular tracks chosen. IMO, the problem lay > >mostly in his obvious distaste for the audience itself, for the venue, for > >whatever. This was cheap, lazy DJ'ing masquerading as cutting-edge. The > >tracks played were of the most obvious "noise-core beginner's kit" variety, > >and the DJ'ing, on a technical level, just plain sucked. He didn't give a > >shit, and it showed. > > No argument there, but I think the point is that Alec & co. weren't so > poorly behaved in SF. My gut feeling is that they didn't have enough time > to get as thoroughly drunk before the show here ...

Alec never touched alcohol or any other kind of drugs in his life. Thaddi, un flaneur electronique --------------------------------------------------- Beauty exists only in struggle. http://www.haywire.co.uk/dhr/sonicsubjunkies.html