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1997-04-01 00:38sm@4th World (idm) most overated artists of 1996?
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1997-04-01 00:38sm@4th Worldhey - it's cat amongst the pigeons time folks check out this page http://members.aol.com/b
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hey - it's cat amongst the pigeons time folks check out this page http://members.aol.com/blissout/sr2.htm part of wire/melody maker/village voice journo simon reynolds site, i've long admired his vitriolic columns in said mags its basically an article on his most overrated artists / releases of 1996 list includes squarepusher , future sound of london , ltj bukem , mo wax , innerzone orchestra , pressure sounds , bill laswell , breakbeat science.. simon makes his points intelligently and with cohesion will you? sm@4thworld http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/4thworld/ check the 'propoganda' page - interviews + features on black dog/ as one/ musik aus strom / jimpster / compost / irdial + more
1997-03-31 13:31CheOn Mon, 31 Mar 1997, sm@4th World wrote: > hey - it's cat amongst the pigeons time folks >
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On Mon, 31 Mar 1997, sm@4th World wrote:
quoted 8 lines hey - it's cat amongst the pigeons time folks> hey - it's cat amongst the pigeons time folks > > check out this page > > http://members.aol.com/blissout/sr2.htm > > part of wire/melody maker/village voice journo simon reynolds > site, i've long admired his vitriolic columns in said mags
SImon's far too worried about dogmatic compliance with genre standards. if you aren't a part of the scene or fail to follow the rules, like Plug or Squarepusher, then fuck you - you're diluting things, not broadening them. Tis a shame, really - I think Simon would have us listening to the Amen break until the next "big thing" catches his fancy. He has a way with words, but also has a bad case of "Critic's Disease", which tends to ruin it. Che
1997-03-31 17:53Greg Earle> http://members.aol.com/blissout/sr2.htm > > Part of Wire/Melody Maker/Village Voice jour
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quoted 4 lines > http://members.aol.com/blissout/sr2.htm > > Part of Wire/Melody Maker/Village Voice journo Simon Reynolds' site, > it's basically an article on his most overrated artists / releases of 1996
To be fair, you should have mentioned .../sr1.htm, which is his favorites from 1996. Puts things in quite a different perspective.
quoted 1 line Simon makes his points intelligently and with cohesion> Simon makes his points intelligently and with cohesion
Hardly.
quoted 1 line Will you?> Will you?
Well, I'll try: Anybody who claims that FSOL "merely transferred the prog-rock notion of ostentatious virtuosity to sample-based music" while meanwhile praising Mokum-style Gabber (cf. sr1.htm) clearly has his head wedged a bit too far up his arse. He claims "Maybe Fabio and Grooverider did drop ``Bug In The Bassbin'' down at Rage, legendarily pitched up to 45 rpm - but the idea that the track was a seminal and formative influence on the nascent Jungle sound is preposterous." Well gee, I remember reading that Goldie said it was a seminal and formative influence. Now who am I gonna believe, somebody actually *making* the music and in the middle of it, or a journalist??? The fact that his favorites from '96 are 95% Drum n' Bass or Gabber (!) pretty much says it all, in my book. The problem with Reynolds - like most music journos - is that the music world is not Black or White, not Good or Bad. 12 years and 500,000+ postings about music to Usenet newsgroups and mailing lists that I've read has firmly disavowed me of that notion. Unfortunately it hasn't yet occured to Reynolds. I like FSOL. I like "Bug In The Bassbin". I like "Headz 2A"/"Headz 2B". No amount of blathering by Reynolds or anyone else is going to change this. Ultimately it's still a matter of taste and how your neurons fire in response to sonic input, and it's clear Reynolds' neurons fire differently than mine in some ways, and similarly in others. C'est la guerre ... Oh, and his Web site's crap (gee, nice background, shame you can't actually *read* anything unless you click-drag to highlight all the text with a sane background) and his "The Sex Revolts" book snippets are a hoot - a totally ridiculous topic (Genderification in Rock - yawn) in a field no one cares about anymore (Rock). Do I win? - Greg