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1997-01-28 16:26Chris Fahey (idm) re: Schoolhouse Rock
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1997-01-28 16:58Lazlo Nibble (idm) re: Schoolhouse Rock
1997-01-28 21:56(idm) Re: Schoolhouse Rock
1997-01-29 03:05(idm) Re: Schoolhouse Rock
1997-01-29 19:29(idm) Re: Schoolhouse Rock
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1997-01-28 16:26Chris FaheyFuck yeah! Fuck Star Wars and fuck Schoolhouse Rock and fuck Three's Company and fuck the
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Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:26:46 -0500
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Fuck yeah! Fuck Star Wars and fuck Schoolhouse Rock and fuck Three's Company and fuck the Atari 2600 all that genx childhood nostalgia. Almost all that stuff is bad compared to stuff now. Sure, there were one or two good things created during my childhood, some of which most people would see as cheap nostalgia but I see as genius (EX: "I feel love" by Donna Summer). But for the most part nostalgia for one's youth is an excuse for not really liking yourself right now and not having any interests which really mean anything to you. I personally think that there's enough interesting stuff going on in the world right now, especially in music, that it's a crime to bother reminiscing about the old crap. I don't blame Bart one bit, although really it's the 40-year olds running the media companies who are deciding to ram recycled shit down our throats. To those of my generation here (mid-20's): remember how stupid Happy Days was to us when we were kids, how stupid that 50's nostalgia was? Well, 70's nostalgia is just as stupid now. -Chris -----Original Message----- From: Philip Downey [SMTP:threnody@bu.edu] Sent: Monday, January 27, 1997 10:50 PM To: idm list Subject: Re: (idm) I.D.<--BlechNY On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, James Newton wrote:
quoted 5 lines TWO WORDS: SCHOOLHOUSE ROCK!!!!!!!!!!> > TWO WORDS: SCHOOLHOUSE ROCK!!!!!!!!!! > > Doesn't anybody remember this tune from Saturday morning cartoons when > they were a kid? There was a whole series of these little cartoon
There's been a bunch of crappy rock cover versions of all these songs in the last couple of years. I think the best review of them came from Bart Simpson, while he and Lisa were seeing the covers on emptyVee. Bart: "What the hell is this?" Lisa: "It's generation x making a pitiful attempt to relive their youth." Bart: "Methinks we need a Vietnam war to thin their ranks out." Phil Downey (gen-X'er who freely disses his youth.)
1997-01-28 17:11khannan suntharamOn Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Chris Fahey wrote: > Fuck yeah! Fuck Star Wars and fuck Schoolhouse R
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On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Chris Fahey wrote:
quoted 3 lines Fuck yeah! Fuck Star Wars and fuck Schoolhouse Rock and fuck Three's> Fuck yeah! Fuck Star Wars and fuck Schoolhouse Rock and fuck Three's > Company and fuck the Atari 2600 all that genx childhood nostalgia. > Almost all that stuff is bad compared to stuff now.
Ok motherfucker, you've gone too fuckin' far. Schoolhouse Rock, okay, fuck that shit it's nothing but crap. Three's Company? Yeah, that shit ain't funny anymore, so fuck that shit too. Atari 2600? That shit may have been the motherfucking bomb back then, but has for now? Ah, fuck it, it's shit. But Star Wars? Motherfucker, did you just say "fuck star wars" ?? Bitch, all I gotta say is this...Fuck you!!! Just cause you were too poor to afford them wikkid AT-ATs when you were a kid, just cuz them bullies swiped yer Luke Skyywalker action figure, just cuz you had nobody to play with, and just cuz you didn't get it doesn't give you the right to dis the only, the ONLY, motherfuckin' good thing about that shit-hole time period known as "everything before the 80s." But as far as that other Gen-X shit...yeah fuck that and fuck Gen-X too. Disclaimer: chill, this is not a personal attack. khannan suntharam, who is eagerly awaiting that recycled star warz crap kxs28972@bayou.uh.edu
1997-01-28 16:58Lazlo Nibble> Sure, there were one or two good things created during my childhood, > some of which mos
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Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:58:15 -0700 (MST)
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quoted 6 lines Sure, there were one or two good things created during my childhood,> Sure, there were one or two good things created during my childhood, > some of which most people would see as cheap nostalgia but I see as > genius (EX: "I feel love" by Donna Summer). But for the most part > nostalgia for one's youth is an excuse for not really liking yourself > right now and not having any interests which really mean anything to > you.
In other words, when you're nostalgic about things it's because you appreciate quality when you see it, but when other people are nostalgic about things, it's because they're insecure fuckups without lives.
quoted 3 lines I personally think that there's enough interesting stuff going on> I personally think that there's enough interesting stuff going on > in the world right now, especially in music, that it's a crime to bother > reminiscing about the old crap.
And I think it's a crime to disrespect or ignore old music simply because it's not new music, so there you go. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)
1997-01-28 21:56tweibrecht@juno.comOn Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:26:46 -0500 Chris Fahey <chris@wanderlust.com> writes: >Fuck yeah!
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On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:26:46 -0500 Chris Fahey <chris@wanderlust.com> writes:
quoted 24 lines Fuck yeah! Fuck Star Wars and fuck Schoolhouse Rock and fuck Three's>Fuck yeah! Fuck Star Wars and fuck Schoolhouse Rock and fuck Three's >Company and fuck the Atari 2600 all that genx childhood nostalgia. >Almost all that stuff is bad compared to stuff now. > >Sure, there were one or two good things created during my childhood, >some of which most people would see as cheap nostalgia but I see as >genius (EX: "I feel love" by Donna Summer). But for the most part >nostalgia for one's youth is an excuse for not really liking yourself >right now and not having any interests which really mean anything to >you. I personally think that there's enough interesting stuff going on >in the world right now, especially in music, that it's a crime to >bother >reminiscing about the old crap. > >I don't blame Bart one bit, although really it's the 40-year olds >running the media companies who are deciding to ram recycled shit down >our throats. > >To those of my generation here (mid-20's): remember how stupid Happy >Days was to us when we were kids, how stupid that 50's nostalgia was? >Well, 70's nostalgia is just as stupid now. > >-Chris >
um, is this a serious statement or an attempt at humor? curiously yours, tom w np: namlook III
1997-01-29 03:05tweibrecht@juno.comwell, i dont think its nostalgia...i think its a matter of recognizing and appreciating ou
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well, i dont think its nostalgia...i think its a matter of recognizing and appreciating our roots and our history...without star wars i dont think youd have "all that interesting stuff" like id4, xfiles, etc...without the atari, i doubt youd have that instrument you send these messages with...without all the 70s music(s), and boy, was there a shitload of it, i doubt youd be listening to whatever it is you're listening to now...things happen by evolution, not spontaneous combustion....to dismiss it as shit, is pretty friggin ignorant...do u dismiss all history that way? and i do "like myself right now" and guess what, i do think back to the 70s...(and the 60s for that matter) tom w np: dark side of the moog V (guess when that instrument's usage took off?). On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:40:59 -0500 Chris Fahey <chris@wanderlust.com> writes:
quoted 60 lines No, I'm serious. I hate that nostalgia shit.>No, I'm serious. I hate that nostalgia shit. > >For future reference, I usually *do* make some kind of attempt at >humor >whwn making bold, grandiose statements like this. Not this time tho. > >np: whitesnake - here I go again on my own >(that's an attempt at humor - really it's *tomita-live at linz 1984* - >no joke) > >-Chris Fahey > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: tweibrecht@juno.com [SMTP:tweibrecht@juno.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 1997 4:57 PM >>To: Chris Fahey >>Cc: idm@hyperreal.com >>Subject: (idm) Re: Schoolhouse Rock >> >> >>On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:26:46 -0500 Chris Fahey <chris@wanderlust.com> >>writes: >>>Fuck yeah! Fuck Star Wars and fuck Schoolhouse Rock and fuck Three's >>>Company and fuck the Atari 2600 all that genx childhood nostalgia. >>>Almost all that stuff is bad compared to stuff now. >>> >>>Sure, there were one or two good things created during my childhood, >>>some of which most people would see as cheap nostalgia but I see as >>>genius (EX: "I feel love" by Donna Summer). But for the most part >>>nostalgia for one's youth is an excuse for not really liking >yourself >>>right now and not having any interests which really mean anything to >>>you. I personally think that there's enough interesting stuff going >on >>>in the world right now, especially in music, that it's a crime to >>>bother >>>reminiscing about the old crap. >>> >>>I don't blame Bart one bit, although really it's the 40-year olds >>>running the media companies who are deciding to ram recycled shit >down >>>our throats. >>> >>>To those of my generation here (mid-20's): remember how stupid Happy >>>Days was to us when we were kids, how stupid that 50's nostalgia >was? >>>Well, 70's nostalgia is just as stupid now. >>> >>>-Chris >>> >>um, is this a serious statement or an attempt at humor? >> >>curiously yours, >> >>tom w >> >>np: namlook III >
1997-01-29 19:29tweibrecht@juno.comok...at least you're toning it down a tad...but it still doesn't explain your statement th
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ok...at least you're toning it down a tad...but it still doesn't explain your statement that "Almost all that stuff is bad compared to stuff now." or, " that it's a crime to bother reminiscing about the old crap." maybe when you get older you'll appreciate what you're experiencing now, and realize how it influenced where youll be...and, what do you care if people sit around watching retro-tv? maybe they're not into whats going on now? maybe whats cool for you aint cool for them? and whether or not they have "taste" is really none of my business...why should i care what they like or dont? why should you? finally, the only reason i mentioned id4 was to give an example of how one 70s "old crap" artifact affected something in these "cool" 90s.... tom w np: pharoah sanders - message from home ("old crap" indeed) On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 19:34:39 -0500 Chris Fahey <chris@wanderlust.com> writes:
quoted 115 lines I never said there was anything wrong with appreciating stuff that's>I never said there was anything wrong with appreciating stuff that's >old. i just think nostalgia's a waste of time. I think that all the >kids >who waste their time watching Charlie's Angels reruns on TV because >the >70's are retro cool are wasting their time and missing out on cool >stuff >that's going on right now. I ONLY listen to old stuff if I actually >like >it. I'll bet most people don't actually listen to things they like. Do >you really think that people really, in general, have good taste? I >don't. > >And do you seriously think that id4 is cool? I'll bet even George >Lucas >thought it was crap. > >-CF >>-----Original Message----- >>From: tweibrecht@juno.com [SMTP:tweibrecht@juno.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 1997 10:06 PM >>To: Chris Fahey >>Cc: idm@hyperreal.com >>Subject: Re: Schoolhouse Rock >> >>well, i dont think its nostalgia...i think its a matter of >recognizing >>and appreciating our roots and our history...without star wars i dont >>think youd have "all that interesting stuff" like id4, xfiles, >>etc...without the atari, i doubt youd have that instrument you send >>these messages with...without all the 70s music(s), and boy, was >there a >>shitload of it, i doubt youd be listening to whatever it is you're >>listening to now...things happen by evolution, not spontaneous >>combustion....to dismiss it as shit, is pretty friggin ignorant...do >u >>dismiss all history that way? and i do "like myself right now" and >guess >>what, i do think back to the 70s...(and the 60s for that matter) >>tom w >> >>np: dark side of the moog V (guess when that instrument's usage took >>off?). >> >>On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:40:59 -0500 Chris Fahey <chris@wanderlust.com> >>writes: >>>No, I'm serious. I hate that nostalgia shit. >>> >>>For future reference, I usually *do* make some kind of attempt at >>>humor >>>whwn making bold, grandiose statements like this. Not this time tho. >>> >>>np: whitesnake - here I go again on my own >>>(that's an attempt at humor - really it's *tomita-live at linz 1984* >- >>>no joke) >>> >>>-Chris Fahey >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: tweibrecht@juno.com [SMTP:tweibrecht@juno.com] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 1997 4:57 PM >>>>To: Chris Fahey >>>>Cc: idm@hyperreal.com >>>>Subject: (idm) Re: Schoolhouse Rock >>>> >>>> >>>>On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:26:46 -0500 Chris Fahey ><chris@wanderlust.com> >>>>writes: >>>>>Fuck yeah! Fuck Star Wars and fuck Schoolhouse Rock and fuck >Three's >>>>>Company and fuck the Atari 2600 all that genx childhood nostalgia. >>>>>Almost all that stuff is bad compared to stuff now. >>>>> >>>>>Sure, there were one or two good things created during my >childhood, >>>>>some of which most people would see as cheap nostalgia but I see >as >>>>>genius (EX: "I feel love" by Donna Summer). But for the most part >>>>>nostalgia for one's youth is an excuse for not really liking >>>yourself >>>>>right now and not having any interests which really mean anything >to >>>>>you. I personally think that there's enough interesting stuff >going >>>on >>>>>in the world right now, especially in music, that it's a crime to >>>>>bother >>>>>reminiscing about the old crap. >>>>> >>>>>I don't blame Bart one bit, although really it's the 40-year olds >>>>>running the media companies who are deciding to ram recycled shit >>>down >>>>>our throats. >>>>> >>>>>To those of my generation here (mid-20's): remember how stupid >Happy >>>>>Days was to us when we were kids, how stupid that 50's nostalgia >>>was? >>>>>Well, 70's nostalgia is just as stupid now. >>>>> >>>>>-Chris >>>>> >>>>um, is this a serious statement or an attempt at humor? >>>> >>>>curiously yours, >>>> >>>>tom w >>>> >>>>np: namlook III >>> >