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Re: Re: (idm) electronica on mtv and 90210

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1997-01-15 03:56Felicity Boevink Re: (idm) electronica on mtv and 90210
1997-01-15 05:36Ian McCausland Re: Re: (idm) electronica on mtv and 90210
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1997-01-15 03:56Felicity BoevinkA quick note to let all IDM'ers know that whilst channel surfing last night I did my once
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Re: (idm) electronica on mtv and 90210
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A quick note to let all IDM'ers know that whilst channel surfing last night I did my once or twice yearly watch of Beverly Hills 90210. Last year the "funky" kids had set up a club that definitely played grunge every time the show did an "on a night out" scene. Last night the silicon boys and girls were dancing to electronica .... A definite plug for Aaron Spelling's fashionable team thinks is cool and happening. But ... this very same debate has been going on another list to which I subscribe. The "debate" there seems to have degenerated to name calling, but I like this post: From: hellekin@imaginet.fr [snip]
quoted 2 lines ..... each and every underground style, culture, thought, music that> ..... each and every underground style, culture, thought, music that >spreads away inevitably crosses the road of fierce warriors : what the >
Mentor once called "Profiteering Gluttons".
quoted 10 lines PGs are a class that classify things and people to freeze them into a> >PGs are a class that classify things and people to freeze them into a >static form, because a shop-window needs static, yet accessible >products(have you ever thought about how it is hard to sell crabs ?). > >The Techno scenes worldwide have been for years crabs in The Factory. >Moving, changing, spreading, going back and forth in full light without >stopping : PGs couldn't freeze them. Now, many PGs understood that "the >medium is the message" and took the form for the medium. Because they >don't understand the multiplicity and the ubiquity of things, the PGs >just
took a _part of a (w)hole_ to make bucks>out of that.
quoted 2 lines Of course that worked. Selling holes is the most lucrative activity>Of course that worked. Selling holes is the most lucrative activity >nowadays, and MTV, advertising armies and Big Bucks know that well.
quoted 4 lines The funny thing with Techno is that labelling it (Goa Trance, Gabber,>The funny thing with Techno is that labelling it (Goa Trance, Gabber, >Hardcore, HardTrance, Psy...) is not sufficient enough to freeze the >movement. Techno IS movement, and labelling it is equivalent to take a >picture of Carl Lewis running the Sprint Final in Calgary - or was it >Los
Angeles ? -: you have a souvenir, and maybe something close to a >Tex Avery character.
quoted 1 line [snip] ... being afraid of Techno going _inside_ TV is not a serene >> [snip] ... being afraid of Techno going _inside_ TV is not a serene >
attitude.Think about viruses : they're small, fragile and have no fear
quoted 1 line (symbolically speaking) of bigger organisms. The fear you have is that > of>(symbolically speaking) of bigger organisms. The fear you have is that > of
being labelled yourself because you are a "Goa listener", one of > >*those* freaks taking drugs at parties.
quoted 3 lines What *scares* you is not seeing GOA dissolved into 20 sec. of>What *scares* you is not seeing GOA dissolved into 20 sec. of >_bullshit_sold to the masses but be, *yourself* as an individual, > absorbed in the mainstream via your favorite _underground_ music.
quoted 1 line Freud would tell you to arrange things with your father.> Freud would tell you to arrange things with your father.
[snip] :) Felis (Excitement,Adventure and Really Wild Things) ***************************************************************************
1997-01-15 05:36Ian McCauslandFelicity Boevink,spcia@bit.net.au,Internet writes: Last night the silicon boys and girls w
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Re: Re: (idm) electronica on mtv and 90210
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Felicity Boevink,spcia@bit.net.au,Internet writes: Last night the silicon boys and girls were dancing to electronica .... A definite plug for Aaron Spelling's fashionable team thinks is cool and happening. just what the HELL is this Electronica term all about ... Thats just blows.... reminds me of Summner/Marr meets Republicia..... its just techno ,... kids... coming from an old timer who was smitten with Klaus Schulze back in <gasp> 1983!