A quick note to let all IDM'ers know that whilst channel surfing last night
I did my once or twice yearly watch of Beverly Hills 90210.
Last year the "funky" kids had set up a club that definitely played grunge
every time the show did an "on a night out" scene. Last night the silicon
boys and girls were dancing to electronica .... A definite plug for Aaron
Spelling's fashionable team thinks is cool and happening.
But ... this very same debate has been going on another list to which I
subscribe. The "debate" there seems to have degenerated to name calling, but
I like this post:
From: hellekin@imaginet.fr
[snip]
quoted 2 lines ..... each and every underground style, culture, thought, music that
> ..... each and every underground style, culture, thought, music that
>spreads away inevitably crosses the road of fierce warriors : what the >
Mentor once called "Profiteering Gluttons".
quoted 10 lines PGs are a class that classify things and people to freeze them into a
>
>PGs are a class that classify things and people to freeze them into a
>static form, because a shop-window needs static, yet accessible
>products(have you ever thought about how it is hard to sell crabs ?).
>
>The Techno scenes worldwide have been for years crabs in The Factory.
>Moving, changing, spreading, going back and forth in full light without
>stopping : PGs couldn't freeze them. Now, many PGs understood that "the
>medium is the message" and took the form for the medium. Because they
>don't understand the multiplicity and the ubiquity of things, the PGs >just
took a _part of a (w)hole_ to make bucks>out of that.
quoted 2 lines Of course that worked. Selling holes is the most lucrative activity
>Of course that worked. Selling holes is the most lucrative activity
>nowadays, and MTV, advertising armies and Big Bucks know that well.
quoted 4 lines The funny thing with Techno is that labelling it (Goa Trance, Gabber,
>The funny thing with Techno is that labelling it (Goa Trance, Gabber,
>Hardcore, HardTrance, Psy...) is not sufficient enough to freeze the
>movement. Techno IS movement, and labelling it is equivalent to take a
>picture of Carl Lewis running the Sprint Final in Calgary - or was it >Los
Angeles ? -: you have a souvenir, and maybe something close to a >Tex Avery
character.
quoted 1 line [snip] ... being afraid of Techno going _inside_ TV is not a serene >
> [snip] ... being afraid of Techno going _inside_ TV is not a serene >
attitude.Think about viruses : they're small, fragile and have no fear
quoted 1 line (symbolically speaking) of bigger organisms. The fear you have is that > of
>(symbolically speaking) of bigger organisms. The fear you have is that > of
being labelled yourself because you are a "Goa listener", one of > >*those*
freaks taking drugs at parties.
quoted 3 lines What *scares* you is not seeing GOA dissolved into 20 sec. of
>What *scares* you is not seeing GOA dissolved into 20 sec. of
>_bullshit_sold to the masses but be, *yourself* as an individual,
> absorbed in the mainstream via your favorite _underground_ music.
quoted 1 line Freud would tell you to arrange things with your father.
> Freud would tell you to arrange things with your father.
[snip]
:)
Felis
(Excitement,Adventure and Really Wild Things)
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