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Re: (idm) Hawtin's "Concept" Series

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1996-12-19 22:38Aca (idm) Hawtin's "Concept" Series
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1996-12-20 07:51Chris Sattinger Re: (idm) Hawtin's "Concept" Series
1996-12-20 19:56Re: (idm) Hawtin's "Concept" Series
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1996-12-19 22:38Aca"William D. VanLoo" <wdvanloo@mtu.edu> wrote : > By the way, is the latest Concept number
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"William D. VanLoo" <wdvanloo@mtu.edu> wrote :
quoted 2 lines By the way, is the latest Concept number 9? 8 and 9 were released at the> By the way, is the latest Concept number 9? 8 and 9 were released at the > same time, right, and then what?
Can anyone tell me what these CONCEPT releases are actually like ? I've never even seen one. Any opinions would be welcome. Cheers, Aca
1996-12-20 00:30a lifeform> Can anyone tell me what these CONCEPT releases are actually like ? > I've never even see
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quoted 2 lines Can anyone tell me what these CONCEPT releases are actually like ?> Can anyone tell me what these CONCEPT releases are actually like ? > I've never even seen one. Any opinions would be welcome.
I had a chance to listen to a couple of them a few months ago (around when 5 and 6 were released). Very minimalist stuff from what I recall. I would characterize it as the sort of thing you'd put on between mad floor-filling stompers, or perhaps as something to use to build up a groove. You could certainly layer something on top of it... hell, pull out a sampler, a 909, and you could probably use some of the Concepts to build your own mix on the fly. -- guyjr@ns.gt.ed.net | I.D.M.- That stage in sleeping when your feet are a.k.a., Guy Elden, Jr. | moving faster than your eyes.
1996-12-20 07:51Chris Sattinger>> Can anyone tell me what these CONCEPT releases are actually like ? >> I've never even s
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quoted 11 lines Can anyone tell me what these CONCEPT releases are actually like ?>> Can anyone tell me what these CONCEPT releases are actually like ? >> I've never even seen one. Any opinions would be welcome. > >I had a chance to listen to a couple of them a few months ago (around when 5 >and 6 were released). > >Very minimalist stuff from what I recall. I would characterize it as the >sort of thing you'd put on between mad floor-filling stompers, or perhaps >as something to use to build up a groove. You could certainly layer something >on top of it... hell, pull out a sampler, a 909, and you could probably >use some of the Concepts to build your own mix on the fly.
The Concept stuff ties in with Mike Ink's Studio and the Basic Channel / Chain Reaction etc. stuff. It may sound minimal but a good dj can bring a dancefloor down to the emotional whisper of this stuff without losing the energy of the room. While much of techno gets louder and noisier (again) these guys are bringing in a very subtle emotional style. the changes are very slight and especially on the hawtin stuff, very well planned. when it happens (a slight small change, quiver) after 3 minutes, it feels like a major change even though it is very minor. a tweaked decay on an effect etc. (Rob Hood mentions that after this amount of time your expectations relax and your mind no longer looks for changes. at this point the dancefloor all of a sudden becomes excited. very strange.) Interesting that dance music has split into the very fractured-form and the very minimal. more than one way to skin a cat, kids. please don't choose sides. the other thing about all these records is that none of the sounds are identifyable.(sp.) no obvious drum machines or naked synths. 10-4 over and out good buddy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Sattinger reprogramming our reality through disco live PA : Milwaukee DBN New Years Eve new records coming on : Synewave, Subvoice, Sativae NEW RELEASES - DISCOGRAPHY - INFO http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m082/satti002/ChrisSattinger.html US Techno House Business Resource : http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m082/satti002/DanceLabel.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1996-12-20 19:56lfo@pacifier.comAt 01:51 AM 12/20/96 -0600, you wrote: >the other thing about all these records is that no
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At 01:51 AM 12/20/96 -0600, you wrote:
quoted 2 lines the other thing about all these records is that none of the sounds are>the other thing about all these records is that none of the sounds are >identifyable.(sp.) no obvious drum machines or naked synths.
hmm.... this could be argued. If you are used to the gear that Richie or any one for that matter uses, it's becomes a lot easier to pick sounds out. {---=-=--->>> It all starts @ home ..... ..:..::.:::. : .:::.::..:.. ..... lfo@pacifier.com <<<---=-=---}