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Re: (idm) man, i don't mean to be grumpy...

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1996-12-08 06:45Sean Cooper (idm) man, i don't mean to be grumpy...
1996-12-08 18:54David Jones Re: (idm) man, i don't mean to be grumpy...
└─ 1996-12-08 19:49Aaron Michelson Re: (idm) man, i don't mean to be grumpy...
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1996-12-08 06:45Sean Cooperbut after mike & rich, _das ist eine groovybeat, ja?_, and now that insipid gary moscheles
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but after mike & rich, _das ist eine groovybeat, ja?_, and now that insipid gary moscheles record, it would seem the world is nearing packed-to-the-gills with not-very-interesting takes on lounge-jazz-electro. so, instead of moaning about how this or that record sucks, or how this or that record is sub-par, i'll offer a more constructive (at least, for the end user) form of criticism by way of a list of alternate records in a similar vein that i think just bury the likes of the above. consider it a collection of tracks for those who agree to disagree: 1. the last three or four cheap 12"s ("showroom recordings #2," sokol's "mean clown welcome," "gerard deluxe" by gerard potuznik, etc.). rhythmically complex, with vibes, double-bass, traps, etc. seamlessly fused with dense, often quite musical percussion arrangments similar to plug, vert, etc., but with not nearly the cheese and tons of breaks, diversions, and out-and-out bizarre tangents. some of the tracks on these records even *sound* like their being played in real-time by a band, and offer a glimpse of what will likely become the future integration of live instruments and electronics on the most outbound of combinations... 2. atom heart. duh. i'll name _ondas_--uwe's second record with tetsu inoue as datacide--for more straight-ahead electro-jazz (they call it _future lounge_ on the sleeve), as well as its predecessors _built_ (recorded with victor sol under the name +n) and _brown_ (the long lost blank-sleeve customs foiler!). these record are all over the place stylistically, but wherever the go its usually with a clever smirk in its pocket, with tracks bubbling up with rhumba and salsa rhythms, mid-tempo claves, loads of latin percussion, etc. both are on rather interesting, as well as being same. 3. mung's "places" ep (on blue planet, plan2). this ep could be a full-on record for how satisfied you feel after listening to it. another style-skipper, but everything is fitted together so perfect you never notice you started at jungle, edged over downbeat breaks,and worked on through supafunk electro-boogie, be-bop, and jazzy electronica. and that's just the first track! (see also: the bowling green's "mettle" ep.) innovative? i hear this word tossed around with impunity on this list, and am continually dismayed to see it applied to so many records which lack even the remotest justification for its use. and especially in the face of so much good music being released that's never even mentioned here... ok, my apologies for any bent egos. back to the regularly scheduled hero worship... sc
1996-12-08 18:54David JonesSean Cooper wrote: >2. atom heart. duh. i'll name _ondas_--uwe's second record with tetsu
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Sean Cooper wrote:
quoted 2 lines 2. atom heart. duh. i'll name _ondas_--uwe's second record with tetsu inoue>2. atom heart. duh. i'll name _ondas_--uwe's second record with tetsu inoue >as datacide
Uh, "ondas" is there 4th full-length together isn't it? Datacide 1 was on Pod, 2 on Fax, "Flowerhead" on RI/Asphodel. I've never hear the Pod or Fax releases, so I don't know for sure if they are different. -- David "Christopher Miller has probably already pointed this out, but I'm on the digest so forgive me" Jones
1996-12-08 19:49Aaron MichelsonOn Sun, 8 Dec 1996, David Jones wrote: > I've never hear the Pod or Fax releases, so I don
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Re: (idm) man, i don't mean to be grumpy...
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On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, David Jones wrote:
quoted 2 lines I've never hear the Pod or Fax releases, so I don't know for sure if they> I've never hear the Pod or Fax releases, so I don't know for sure if they > are different.
I'd gather that the Pod release is pretty technoish, and the Fax release is more electro-accoustic ambience... Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org