(Please read the following in the voice of Jerry Springer. You know the
end part of his show were he has his final thoughts for the day.)
Matt!!! and the whole list!!!!!
I never post on the list anymore but I had to for this one. I have to
agree with Matt on this even if he does not like our new release by
Iyunx and that's ok. I wish more people would say what they feel then to
just keep it inside and not put it out. So big respect for Matt in
saying what he said.
But I do see from time to time good reviews that point out the good and
the bad in a release, and these make me think and take note of opinions,
but at the same time I like to decide for myself what I like and don't
like. So I say "Say what you want to say, your likes and dislikes",
because some people like red but not blue and others like blue and not
red. So the main thing is if it does anything for you great if it
doesn't that's ok too. But it would be nice just to hear opinions more
on this list and in life in general. It would sure make us all better
lovers if people would say what they like and don't like.:)
Now about labels:::
Labels take chances in releasing artistic works that they believe in (I
think!!). The chance sometimes turns out good and other times they turn
out not so good but the main thing is if labels did not take chances in
the music they release we would never move forward. Think about it!!!!
There would be nothing if it was not for people taking chances on
anything. No cars, planes, IDM,,, or anything. So thank god for all the
risk takers out there!!!!! or we would all still be living in caves.
Oh,,, no,, that would have been a risk too. Going in to some big dark
cave could be dangerous. So let me correct myself! We would all still be
standing in the rain getting wet.
So lets hear more opinions and more risky releases!!!!
Shad@Isophlux
Oh! and Matt your lucky your not on our promo list!!!!!! HA!HA!HA! Just
kidding:)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:16:42 EST
To: idm@hyperreal.org
From: AeOtaku@aol.com
Subject: Warnings
Message-ID: <d.13197ab.25d1efca@aol.com>
quoted 22 lines Has anybody else just about reached the end of
>Has anybody else just about reached the end of
>their rope in tolerating _BAD_ IDM releases?
>It seems that an absolute flood of them are out
>now, and while in past times people seemed a bit
>more candid on the list about them, now it seems
>when a release gets publicized and people buy it
>and don't like it, they don't say anything, and so
>everyone else makes the same mistake of picking
>it up and not liking it. I'm not suggesting flames,
>unnecessary slagging, or anything of that sort,
>I'm just pointing out that if we take time to praise
>a release for being exceptional (see recent deservedly
>favorable reviews of Boulderdash) we should also
>just post quick notes about releases we didn't like
>so people don't have to just trust five paragraph
>ramblings on mail order lists (or, as the woman in the
>video store in Clerks so rightly put it (paraphrase): "They say so
>much, but they never tell you if it's any good.") After all,
>we all know how it is to get a huge pile of stuff to find out
>50% of it is forgettable (seems to happen to me every month).
>So, in order to do my part, here's some stuff that's gotten
>publicity lately that I found either average (or worse).quoted 8 lines most of the Schematic label releases
>most of the Schematic label releases
>most of the 20' to 2000 series
>Num Num: Unknown Sources 10" (Toytronic)
>Aspen: Are You That Retail Snob? CD (Involve)
>Gimmik: Random Access 12" (Worm Interface)
>Quench: A Journey Into Electronix CD (U-Cover)
>Schlammpeitziger: (long title I forget off-hand) LP (Entenpfuhl)
>Gamers In Exile: Whippin' Time 7" (Unbearable) - and to think Iquoted 8 lines this one!
>this one!
>Iyunx Productions: The Duckie Dirty Bird EP 12" (Isophlux)
>Alder and Elius: Bionic Vagina 12" (Skam)
>Don't Dolby: Don't Dolby 05 CD (Gefriem)
>A. Krause: Schwellwert CD (BMB Labs)
>Broadcast: Echo's Answer 7" (Warp)
>Kit Clayton: Repetition and Nonsense CD (Drop Beat)
>Indio CD (Transmat)quoted 1 line And I could go on and on like this (and intend to later). I just would
>And I could go on and on like this (and intend to later). I just wouldquoted 15 lines to encourage more _INTELLIGENT_, yet critical music
>to encourage more _INTELLIGENT_, yet critical music
>discussion on this list. I don't want to name names, but
>I think a lot of the people on here (especially radio show
>types) are afraid to say anything negative about a record
>because they know the producers and are either their
>friend (and don't want to hurt a friend) or don't want to stop
>getting free promos from the label. This sort of partisan
>musical criticism is only detrimental, dishonest and damaging.
>I, for one, am tired of being posed the choice of either missing
>out on a release and never getting to hear it or having to spend
>$20 on a gamble. Come on, people. And also, to any producers
>listed above, many of you (Schlammpeitziger, Aspen, Mike Ink)
>have very, very good releases out as well, and I would just like to
>encourage quality control. Take a look at Detroit Escalator Company
>or Nuron: quality control pays off both in building an authenticquoted 5 lines garnering critical respect, and being remembered in five years.
>garnering critical respect, and being remembered in five years.
>Remember, Markant gets a lot of flack on this list (which I think to
>some extent is warranted as he is a polarized example of some of
>the issues in IDM today) but there are a lot of records that get
>praised on here that are FAR worse than Markant.quoted 4 lines Matt
>Matt
>np Black Dog: Parallel CD (GPR)
>No Virginia, they don't make much music like
>this anymore.