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1996-08-07 15:40Helen Adriaensozymandias wrote again: oc> Endemic Void have put out (which, for my money, are far more o

From:: Helen Adriaens <helen@syncnet.xs4all.nl>
To:: <ogd@organic.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: 07 Aug 96 17:40:05 +0200
Subject:: (idm) Tragically neglected musiqueque

ozymandias wrote again: oc> Endemic Void have put out (which, for my money, are far more oc> entertaining listening than the Plug series, oc> although not as good as Squarepusher (just to show you guys that I'm not oc> unduly biased against overhyped breaksters)), Not knowing Endemic Void I cannot really comment on your blaspheming Luke Vibert. I'm curious though. oc> but I thought that Biomuse's LP of last year (_Wrong X_) was a beautiful oc> piece of completely unclassifiable industrial acid-jazz techno squeaky oc> oc> headfuckery. It wasn't at _all_ what I expected from a label run by a Moody oc> Boy. Surprise? I have both 'wrong x' and the 'sine god ep' so I can concur with your definition of Biomuse's music. These records have the same effect on me as Moonshake's 'the sound your eyes can follow' although Moonshake are strictly speaking "indie" and therefor nothing to do with idm. Should you wish to torture yourself the cat no is PURE CD33 (too pure label). Try some 'God' as well before you go to sleep. Helen OnNow: Plug - drum'n'bass for papa

1996-08-07 23:02ozymandias G desiderataha == helen@syncnet.xs4all.nl (Helen Adriaens) ha> ozymandias wrote again: ha> oc> Endemic

From:: ozymandias G desiderata <ogd@organic.com>
To:: Helen Adriaens <helen@syncnet.xs4all.nl>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 16:02:29 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Tragically neglected musiqueque

ha == helen@syncnet.xs4all.nl (Helen Adriaens) ha> ozymandias wrote again: ha> oc> Endemic Void have put out (which, for my money, are far more oc> entertaining listening than the Plug series, although not as good oc> as Squarepusher (just to show you guys that I'm not unduly biased oc> against overhyped breaksters)), ha> ha> Not knowing Endemic Void I cannot really comment on your ha> blaspheming Luke Vibert. I'm curious though. I somehow managed to miss St. Luke's beatitude and canonization, but shit, I'm an atheist, so I can blaspheme all I want. Endemic Void merely make extremely thoughtful, creatively jazzy jungle, that manages to avoid both being obnoxiously noodly and being too saccharine and "trad". Man, I hate trad jazz, and that seems to be the kind that the junglists seem to be most prone to sampling. Jungle + Ornette Coleman = happy ozymandias, but it hasn't happened yet. It would be a neat trick, though. oc> but I thought that Biomuse's LP of last year (_Wrong X_) was a oc> beautiful piece of completely unclassifiable industrial acid-jazz oc> techno squeaky headfuckery. It wasn't at _all_ what I expected oc> from a label run by a Moody Boy. ha> ha> Surprise? I have both 'wrong x' and the 'sine god ep' so I can ha> concur with your definition of Biomuse's music. These records have ha> the same effect on me as Moonshake's 'the sound your eyes can ha> follow' although Moonshake are strictly speaking "indie" and ha> therefor nothing to do with idm. Should you wish to torture ha> yourself the cat no is PURE CD33 (too pure label). Try some 'God' ha> as well before you go to sleep. I got a copy of "Sine God" from a friend for free, and had no idea of what to expect. I was completely blown away. Hey, if we can talk about Mouse on Mars and Seefeel on IDM, why not Moonshake, Laika, Pram, or Long Fin Killie? They're all on Too Pure and make extensive use of sampled instrumentation (Moonshake's _The Sound Your Eyes..._ LP proudly advertises itself as being "100% Guitar Free"). I do think that Moonshake lost a lot when Guy kicked Heather out of the band (I much prefer _Eva Luna_ to _The Sound Your Eyes Can Follow_). These days, I prefer Laika's sound (plus Colm of MBV produced them!). OK, since I already mentioned both jungle and indie in the same posting, I'm pretty much obligated to tell you all to run right out and buy copies of Third Eye Foundation's _Semtex_. You only _think_ you've heard weird jungle until you've heard this record. Huge squalling walls of feedback and off-kilter rhythms run through the jungle and dub treatment. It's all gloriously lo-fi, so IDM people will probably loathe and despise it, but I can't get enough of that stuff. From there, it's a short hop to picking up some Flying Saucer Attack and Amp, both of whom are also tasty. Ahh, heck, I'll just get it out on the table: everybody on this list who isn't completely close-minded should run right out and buy the _Monsters, Robots, and Bug Men_ compilation that Virgin recently put out (its catalog number is AMBT 11, which should give you some idea where it's coming from). It's a compendium of "post rock" songs (whatever "post rock" means -- that's almost as vague and meaningless as term as "intelligent dance music"), even though it doesn't contain a Tortoise song. Speaking of which, you people who told me that Tortoise was good and stuff -- YOU LIED! I'm devastated! I bought it expecting it to be all droney, sort of like an IDM version of indie pop, but it just is more sucky "jazzy" shit with some vibes and a few desultory analog stabs over the top. I'm never listening to anything that anybody on this list ever says about music again. yr favorite troublemaker ozymandias PS -- I prefer to listen to God when it's bright and sunny out, thanks. Something about John Zorn shoving an alto sax clear down his throat and listening to God scream a whole bunch tends to interfere with my sleep. I have no idea why. . . . the self-reflecting image of a narcotized mind . . . ozymandias G desiderata ogd@organic.com Desperate, Deathless (415)278-5674 http://www.organic.com/Staff/ogd/ ::AOAIOXXYSZ::

1996-08-08 01:28James B Gilljohn zorn is the bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! james<-- again,

From:: James B Gill <jgill@U.Arizona.EDU>
To:: ozymandias G desiderata <ogd@organic.com>
Cc:: Helen Adriaens <helen@syncnet.xs4all.nl>, <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:28:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Tragically neglected musiqueque
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Tragically neglected musiqueque

john zorn is the bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! james<-- again, one element of a rather more interesting post, but still dull nonetheless that caught my eye! _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- J A M E S B E N J A M I N G I L L U N F O R T U N A T E L Y L I V I N G I N A R I Z O N A J G I L L @ U . A R I Z O N A . E D U (ron trent is *still* the bomb!)

1996-08-09 06:42pH> who isn't completely close-minded should run right out and buy the > _Monsters, Robots,

From:: pH <heninger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
To:: ozymandias G desiderata <ogd@organic.com>
Cc:: Helen Adriaens <helen@syncnet.xs4all.nl>, <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:42:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: (idm) tortoise, robots, and bugmen
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Tragically neglected musiqueque

quoted 4 lines who isn't completely close-minded should run right out and buy the

> who isn't completely close-minded should run right out and buy the > _Monsters, Robots, and Bug Men_ compilation that Virgin recently put > out (its catalog number is AMBT 11, which should give you some idea > where it's coming from). It's a compendium of "post rock" songs

the idea of Virgin doing a "post-rock" comp is truly bizarre. who's on it?

quoted 5 lines stuff -- YOU LIED! I'm devastated! I bought it expecting it to be all

> stuff -- YOU LIED! I'm devastated! I bought it expecting it to be all > droney, sort of like an IDM version of indie pop, but it just is more > sucky "jazzy" shit with some vibes and a few desultory analog stabs > over the top. I'm never listening to anything that anybody on this list > ever says about music again.

Millions Now Living is for couched Tortoise fans only...the Gamera 12" is by far their best effort and while not by any means dance music, intelligent or dull, puts a nice twist on the assembly of a rock song. Their track on Macro Dub Infection, "Goriri" is a remix of Gamera which I find quite tasty. their first remix lp has some nice stuff but is outta print for legal reasons and new 12"'s Tortoise vs. Oval and Tortoise vs. U.N.K.L.E. are worth a listen. the first is especially good, methinks, as it is correctly Oval vs. Toroise vs. Oval...Oval is sampled heavily in the original mix. The paul.

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