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1996-07-24 03:13Suzy Goodsir> >And I did see Greg there in his >Warp shit, with a confused looking girl in tow! Girlfr

From:: Suzy Goodsir <goodsir@afal18.cern.ch>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:13:02 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject:: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

quoted 5 lines And I did see Greg there in his

> >And I did see Greg there in his >Warp shit, with a confused looking girl in tow! Girlfriends just >don't understand! >

OK, nothing personal here... but maybe you're hanging with the wrong kinda girl?! Don't make such generalisations about women. And on a lighter note... anyone gotta review of the Plug lp yet? I was at the launch night at the Blue Note in London and the stuff Vibert was playing was brilliant. Also... why all the arguments about trance dj's/melting vinyl? Since when was trance 'intelligent dance music'?! Suzy

1996-07-25 09:00g3On Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:13:02 +0200 (MET DST), you wrote: >> >>And I did see Greg there in

From:: g3 <g3@bleep.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:00:43 GMT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!
Reply to:: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

On Wed, 24 Jul 1996 03:13:02 +0200 (MET DST), you wrote:

quoted 7 lines And I did see Greg there in his

>> >>And I did see Greg there in his >>Warp shit, with a confused looking girl in tow! Girlfriends just >>don't understand! >> >OK, nothing personal here... but maybe you're hanging with the >wrong kinda girl?! Don't make such generalisations about women.

Heh I wondered if Gonzi's comment would stir up a reaction... My girlfriend likes bits aand bobs, (I wish she was here to respond), Autechre in particular, but isn't really enthusiastic about most of the scene, lack of vocals/lyrics seem to be the biggest problem. But this is pretty much universal amongst technophobes irrespective of gender. g.

1996-07-24 20:21Fresh/Gonzi Merchan>>And I did see Greg there in his >>Warp shit, with a confused looking girl in tow! Girlfr

From:: Fresh/Gonzi Merchan <GMerchan@gnn.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 20:21:17
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

quoted 6 lines And I did see Greg there in his

>>And I did see Greg there in his >>Warp shit, with a confused looking girl in tow! Girlfriends just >>don't understand! >> >OK, nothing personal here... but maybe you're hanging with the >wrong kinda girl?! Don't make such generalisations about women.

Well I was talking about Greg's Girlfriend who didn't seem quite too excited to be seeing Cylob. My girlfriend likes the stuff I play her, especially The Orb and Orbital and she doesn't seem to mind some of the hardcore Rephlexesque stuff. But now that you mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be quite as interested in IDM as the boys. Probably more sensible than to be spending all their time hunting down obscure Aphex remixes. /""'' /"'RESH Live and Direct from the G-Spot Orange County, California, USA

1996-07-25 03:26Renee BakerTo quote Pete Townsend, "WOT???????" Renee Not on now: My powerbook cuz I broke the SCSI c

From:: Renee Baker <Nanette.R.Baker@jpl.nasa.gov>
To:: <"idm@hyperreal.com" <idm@hyperreal.com> (Return requested)>
Date:: 24 Jul 1996 20:26:18 -0700
Subject:: Re[2]: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

To quote Pete Townsend, "WOT???????" Renee Not on now: My powerbook cuz I broke the SCSI connection before everything was shut off and now my new toy don't work! Boo hoo! _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand! From: GMerchan@GNN.COM at Internet Date: 24-07-1996 20:15

quoted 6 lines And I did see Greg there in his

>>And I did see Greg there in his >>Warp shit, with a confused looking girl in tow! Girlfriends just >>don't understand! >> >OK, nothing personal here... but maybe you're hanging with the >wrong kinda girl?! Don't make such generalisations about women.

Well I was talking about Greg's Girlfriend who didn't seem quite too excited to be seeing Cylob. My girlfriend likes the stuff I play her, especially The Orb and Orbital and she doesn't seem to mind some of the hardcore Rephlexesque stuff. But now that you mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be quite as interested in IDM as the boys. Probably more sensible than to be spending all their time hunting down obscure Aphex remixes. /""'' /"'RESH Live and Direct from the G-Spot Orange County, California, USA

1996-07-25 03:56Shannon Starmer>>> And I did see Greg there in his >>> Warp shit, with a confused looking girl in tow! Gi

From:: Shannon Starmer <67110@UDel.Edu>
To:: Renee Baker <Nanette.R.Baker@jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc:: idm@hyperreal.com <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 23:56:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: Re[2]: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!
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quoted 11 lines And I did see Greg there in his

>>> And I did see Greg there in his >>> Warp shit, with a confused looking girl in tow! Girlfriends just >>> don't understand! > > Well I was talking about Greg's girlfriend who didn't seem quite > too excited to be seeing Cylob. My girlfriend likes the stuff I > play her, especially The Orb and Orbital and she doesn't seem to > mind some of the hardcore Rephlex-esque stuff. But now that you > mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be > quite as interested in IDM as the boys. Probably more sensible than > to be spending all their time hunting down obscure Aphex remixes.

ok okokokokokokok!!! i'm a girl and i maybe I should be quite insulted by this statement ... girls just don't understand ..... but hey weather we do or no .t.. it's true ... i am the only girl i know that is completely indulged by the music, i live the music and to be honest the only other people i know who do this are guys ... why don't more girls like IDM?? why don't more girls want to make music like this... like me?? or even listen to it ...... i swear it is the core of my very existance... hey girls are you out there??? do you care like i care???............. hmmmm no answer............. well just a thought, thanks guys for letting me speak my peace..... respect! shannon

1996-07-25 05:22Robot>the hardcore Rephlexesque stuff. Rephlex... "hardcore"??? You ought to get out more often

From:: Robot <robot@sdic.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 22:22:35 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

quoted 1 line the hardcore Rephlexesque stuff.

>the hardcore Rephlexesque stuff.

Rephlex... "hardcore"??? You ought to get out more often!

quoted 3 lines But now that you

>But now that you >mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be >quite as interested in IDM as the boys.

Techno on the whole is male dominated, unfortunately. I tell you.though, when you find a female techno talent out there she's bringing a shit-load of a lot of interesting flavor and diversity to the scene. Saskia Sledgers, Heather Heart...

quoted 2 lines Probably more sensible than

>Probably more sensible than >to be spending all their time hunting down obscure Aphex remixes.

Anything is more sensible than hunting down obscure Aphex remixes... _ -robert | |___ ____ ____ _____ | |_ \ / -__/ / _/ | _ \ __________ |_____/ \___\ |_| | |__/ / -studio- \ _________________________________ |_| http://icse1.ucsd.edu/~rcurlee/ \

1996-07-25 05:55Kristy Shugg>>But now that you >>mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be >>

From:: Kristy Shugg <s9530165@student.anu.edu.au>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:55:48 +1000
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

quoted 4 lines But now that you

>>But now that you >>mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be >>quite as interested in IDM as the boys. >

(remedial non-generalisation approaching)...i'm not going to speak for all girls, cos you can't, but _i'm_ sure as hell interested. of course, if you've got your head in some cd bin/pile o' vinyl looking for that obscure Aphex remix, that might be why you're missing the girl looking for the latest vibert release just behind you... --kristy

1996-07-25 07:12Sugatis & Co>you're missing the girl looking >for the latest vibert release just behind you... no, i a

From:: Sugatis & Co <sugatis@inreach.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:12:26 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

quoted 2 lines you're missing the girl looking

>you're missing the girl looking >for the latest vibert release just behind you...

no, i am missing the latest vibert release. when!!?!?!?! incidentally, i have found girls to be somewhat more receptive to my idm stuff than guys

1996-07-26 06:10EbbenFlow> > >you're missing the girl looking > >for the latest vibert release just behind you... >

From:: EbbenFlow <the3bps@cabell.vcu.edu>
To:: Sugatis & Co <sugatis@inreach.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 26 Jul 96 2:10:04 EDT
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!
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quoted 11 lines you're missing the girl looking

> > >you're missing the girl looking > >for the latest vibert release just behind you... > > no, i am missing the latest vibert release. when!!?!?!?! > > incidentally, i have found girls to be somewhat more receptive to my idm > stuff than guys > > >

I can't find many females into IDM where I come from at all. One of my past relationships was w/ a girl who listened to nothing but Dee-lite 24 hours a day - she once threw something at me for refusing to play dee-lite while friends of hers were over - i just really didnt think it mixed well with the trip hop i was spinning. BUT - I now that IDM lovers of all genders are "out there somewhere" - there just arent many people at all who listen to IDM in richmond that I have met - BUT i digress DJ Ebben Flow Richmond VA

1996-07-25 07:15Eric Hill>>mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be >>quite as interested

From:: Eric Hill <ehill@best.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:15:48 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

quoted 7 lines mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be

>>mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be >>quite as interested in IDM as the boys. > >Techno on the whole is male dominated, unfortunately. I tell you.though, >when you find a female techno talent out there she's bringing a shit-load of >a lot of interesting flavor and diversity to the scene. Saskia Sledgers, >Heather Heart...

...Andrea Parker, Riz Maslen... A couple of months ago there was a voluntary self-survey on Kraftwerk-l, and it started the longest thread I saw on my six months there when it turned out that every respondent was a guy. The ensuing musicogenderal search for reasons was rendered even more poignant by the absence of female shout-outs or hand raising posts. Not a few regressed into stories of their conflicts with past girlfriends. This was so depressing to read about for like, a solid week that I had to unsubscribe. eric

1996-07-25 11:43Aimee C. MerrittSorry but I'm just as stupid as the rest of you. I have nothing better to do with my time

From:: Aimee C. Merritt <amerritt@library.ucla.edu>
To:: Fresh/Gonzi Merchan <GMerchan@gnn.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:43:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

Sorry but I'm just as stupid as the rest of you. I have nothing better to do with my time than fly to New York to see Orbital and dig through record bins looking for obscure Aphex remixes. While your generalization may be correct for many, it is certainly not the case for all. Every girl at a show is not there because her boyfriend dragged her there. In fact, I know several girls who have to drag their boyfriends to shows. On Wed, 24 Jul 1996 20:21:17 Fresh/Gonzi Merchan <GMerchan@gnn.com> wrote:

quoted 22 lines And I did see Greg there in his

> > >>And I did see Greg there in his > >>Warp shit, with a confused looking girl in tow! Girlfriends just > >>don't understand! > >> > >OK, nothing personal here... but maybe you're hanging with the > >wrong kinda girl?! Don't make such generalisations about women. > > Well I was talking about Greg's Girlfriend who didn't seem quite > too excited to be seeing Cylob. My girlfriend likes the stuff I > play her, especially The Orb and Orbital and she doesn't seem to > mind some of the hardcore Rephlexesque stuff. But now that you > mention it (gross generalisation coming up) girls don't seem to be > quite as interested in IDM as the boys. Probably more sensible than > to be spending all their time hunting down obscure Aphex remixes. > > > /""'' > /"'RESH > Live and Direct from the G-Spot > Orange County, California, USA >

Aimee Merritt SEL/EMS Circulation

1996-07-25 13:24Helen Adriaenssc> incidentally, i have found girls to be somewhat more sc> receptive to my idm stuff tha

From:: Helen Adriaens <helen@syncnet.xs4all.nl>
To:: <sugatis@inreach.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.Com>
Date:: 25 Jul 96 15:24:02 +0200
Subject:: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

sc> incidentally, i have found girls to be somewhat more sc> receptive to my idm stuff than guys Your charisma working overtime to your own detriment? Once upon a time, I was 'charmed' into idm ... Now I have an idm-hating boyfriend. At least I don't have to compete with him in hunting down those obscure remixes. Helen OnNow: Jega again

1996-07-25 13:38Helen AdriaensGreg wrote to enlighten us about his girlfriend's true feelings: go> My girlfriend likes b

From:: Helen Adriaens <helen@syncnet.xs4all.nl>
To:: <Idm@hyperreal.Com>
Date:: 25 Jul 96 15:38:03 +0200
Subject:: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

Greg wrote to enlighten us about his girlfriend's true feelings: go> My girlfriend likes bits aand bobs, go> Autechre in particular I'm not surprised ... Those cats are sooooo cute. Helen OnNow: howls of female kitten being mauled by my 2 tomcats. (.au on request)

1996-07-25 16:55Mohsen GamshadThe Monday night techno/drum'n'bass thing I have going here in San Francisco, always finds

From:: Mohsen Gamshad <gamshad@tcsi.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>, <sugatis@inreach.com>
Date:: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:55:22 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

The Monday night techno/drum'n'bass thing I have going here in San Francisco, always finds me with some female exciteldy asking me what I just played... It could be that for reasons of economics, shitty radio stations, and just general lack of access to this music makes it harder to get in to the scene. Mohsen

1996-07-25 17:09Aran M. ParilloAt 09:55 AM 7/25/96 -0700, Mohsen Gamshad wrote: >The Monday night techno/drum'n'bass thin

From:: Aran M. Parillo <aran@MIT.EDU>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:09:47 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) Girlfriends just don't understand!

At 09:55 AM 7/25/96 -0700, Mohsen Gamshad wrote:

quoted 2 lines The Monday night techno/drum'n'bass thing I have going here in San Francisco,

>The Monday night techno/drum'n'bass thing I have going here in San Francisco, >always finds me with some female exciteldy asking me what I just played...

Tuesday night as I stepped out of the booth I was also approached by a woman who wanted to know where else I spin etc. For those interested parties I put a small text file recap of the TRAINSPOT night on our W3 (http://beyond.hnt.com/) or http://beyond.hnt.com/rt/7RT23.txt if you don't want to hunt around for it. In a word it was "BOSS". :) Teep in my head: luke vibert "london is a country..." (MF glow in the dark shit!)