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Q: How are music critics like cuckolds? (was Re: (idm) Re: Textures)

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1996-07-21 06:17Datboy (idm) Re: Textures
├─ 1996-07-21 20:14James B Gill (idm) D. Carter L. Solomon
└─ 1996-07-22 11:31Che Q: How are music critics like cuckolds? (was Re: (idm) Re: Textures)
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1996-07-21 06:17Datboy>>>I know the "Innovator"-CD by Derrick May is out now in Japan on Sony. >And >>>I want it
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quoted 4 lines I know the "Innovator"-CD by Derrick May is out now in Japan on Sony. >And>>>I know the "Innovator"-CD by Derrick May is out now in Japan on Sony. >And >>>I want it. But I haven't got any money. So I need a promo CD, and since >>>I'm both a radio-DJ and a music journalist, I am possibly entitled to a >>>copy.
"Music Journalist" says it all, basically. If you review in any trade rags, basically you suck. Kinda bugs me that people think that they can write what they think about a record and call it criticism (*real* criticism means that you actually investigate EVERYTHING you can about what went into the creation process and figure out what the thing ultimately has to say), and then think that they are special people within the music field, entitled to something more than those of us who must work for a living. Well, I like the recent Seasons album by Derrick Carter and Luke Solomon very much. There's my criticism, short and sweet just like J D Considine -- so ... please cough up your pile of CD's, but you can keep the ones that suck which surely must be most of them. I've got a bit of cash that I worked for, so I'm entitled to them, aren't I? =) Seriously though ... I'd like to point out that a review isn't just one listen and then you decide whether you like it or not based on that. You've got to know a little bit about whom you're writing rather than just saying yeh I like it, and calling it a review. Most of the shit you read in the mags and papers that try to go in that direction are just that -- shit. And 99 times out of 100 they didn't bother to sit through the whole thing, be it a movie or a record or a TV show, and so on. These people have too much stuff to consume as it is -- they're not going to get into it as deeply as most of us who talk about our favorites here. One to six plays tops for them, constant listening for us. Bollux 2 them ... reading this list does more for telling me what's good and what I might like over any fucked up review or radio program (with a management-enforced playlist, or a freeform DJ who plays his own record collection). And even this list is sometimes fulla shit. Consider this -- music journalists are responsible for creating that old rock 'n' roll myth by constantly writing about it -- so if you ever run into another one of those grunge pansies who think K Cobain was God, think about where he must have gotten that idea.
quoted 5 lines I was a schmuck and paid $25 or so for it [Textures] a couple months ago. I've>I was a schmuck and paid $25 or so for it [Textures] a couple months ago. I've >listened to it once, mainly because the mixing is pretty sub-par from what >I'd expect, especially on the 2nd disc with Patterson. Plus, all of these >tracks have been released on previous TEEX compilations, so there's nothing >new for those who have those 4 comps.
Now after all that bitching here's my own non-review: Actually I like this disc better than the originals ... not because it's Emerson and Paterson, but because I like the mix. It's not the greatest mix I've heard (most of it's coast-to-coast), but it's enough to keep me paying attention to the disc for 2.5 hours around dawn without doing anything else. And I figure the whole genre isn't heard properly unless it's mixed (that's what most of the music is created for isn't it?) ... so cheers for this one. Wish the originals were mixed.
1996-07-21 20:14James B Gill> the recent Seasons album by Derrick Carter and Luke Solomon very much. sorry to chop you
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quoted 1 line the recent Seasons album by Derrick Carter and Luke Solomon very much.> the recent Seasons album by Derrick Carter and Luke Solomon very much.
sorry to chop your statement so short, but I was curious about this album; could you describe it any more so I know what to expect, or are you totally against reviews? Any thoughts about the Carter/Solomon album would be much appreciated by me -- thanx if anyone here doesn't like "Altered States", they should be shot. Ron Trent is the bomb!!!!!
1996-07-22 11:31CheA: They're always the last to find out! Che
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Q: How are music critics like cuckolds? (was Re: (idm) Re: Textures)
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A: They're always the last to find out! Che