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1996-07-14 21:54Guy Elden, Jr.It's amazing the things I manage to find at discount stores like Media Play. Went there la

From:: Guy Elden, Jr. <guyjr@cc.gatech.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:54:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: (idm) found some goodies

It's amazing the things I manage to find at discount stores like Media Play. Went there last night, and picked up Air Liquide's "Increased Difficulty of Concentration", and Single Cell Orchestra's "Dead Vent 7". I've got SCO on right now, and my immediate impression is how striking the resemblance is to The Conversation by Cabaret Voltaire. I love the underlying theme of the album as one continuous story, progressing through some very well constructed atmospheres. This release has more of an ambient feel to it, and it is captivating me at this very moment! =|-) I put on the Air Liquide last night around 1:30am, with a very dim light, and it set the _perfect_ mood for just sitting and meditating. I was also quite pleased to be able to pick up both of these releases for $12.99 each. Finally, I get some great music, at a decent price! Also got the M & R, Das Ist by Slaz, Justin Robertson JDJ, 808 State Bond single, newest Orb peelie (q about that below), and new Electronic album... I know, not really IDM content, but Bernard Sumner has always had a peculiar outlook on life, and it shows through on the CD insert. About the newest Orb Peel sessions... what in the *$!% is that second track doing there!?!?! AFAIK, it's got _nothing_ to do with the Orb. I'm assuming Peel threw that one in there to piss us all off... did a right good job at that on me. :) -- guyjr@cc.gatech.edu | I.D.M.- That stage in sleeping when your feet are a.k.a., Guy Elden Jr. | moving faster than your eyes.

1996-07-14 22:314th world4th world communication About the newest Orb Peel sessions... what in the *$!% is that sec

From:: 4th world <106056.2751@compuserve.com>
To:: (unknown) <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:31:36 -0400
Subject:: (idm) found some goodies

4th world communication About the newest Orb Peel sessions... what in the *$!% is that second track doing there!?!?! AFAIK, it's got _nothing_ to do with the Orb. I'm assuming Peel threw that one in there to piss us all off... did a right good job at that on me. :)

quoted 1 line haven't heard the cd , but presume you are refering to cover version

>>haven't heard the cd , but presume you are refering to cover version

of the stooges "no fun" , alex P. is an old punk raawwwker at heart , he used to roadie for Killing Joke ( a great band!!) , I think it was a meant as a joke , or a kick up the arse to people who sterotype the Orb as boring ambient noodlers.... sonic assassin@4th world p.s. if it's not this track disregard all that post!!!! on now Killing Joke - Requiem

1996-07-15 06:21NaylorOn Sun, 14 Jul 1996, 4th world wrote: > of the stooges "no fun" , alex P. is an old punk r

From:: Naylor <jnaylor@indiana.edu>
To:: 4th world <106056.2751@compuserve.com>
Cc:: (unknown) <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:21:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) found some goodies
Reply to:: (idm) found some goodies

On Sun, 14 Jul 1996, 4th world wrote:

quoted 2 lines of the stooges "no fun" , alex P. is an old punk raawwwker at heart , he

> of the stooges "no fun" , alex P. is an old punk raawwwker at heart , he >used to roadie for Killing Joke ( a great band!!) , I think it was a

Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial conglomeration Pigface. Did anybody attend the Love Parade in Berlin? I could have gone a year ago when I lived in Hamburg but couldn't schedule it. GothCode2.5: GoSS3Mu3??$ TJtSeG | Naylor <jnaylor@indiana.edu> cDBRp7 PLShDe M3p1w Z!!TeiMegTezPu | C6 a22= b65T H182 g5T w6T r3bs | "Ackphth!" h3 s10 k2(5) Rz SsNy N0993 LusIN | -- Bill The Cat

1996-07-15 06:54Eric Frans} Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial conglomeration Pigface. He wasn't a con

From:: Eric Frans <franse@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 23:54:13 -0700 (MST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) found some goodies
Reply to:: Re: (idm) found some goodies

} Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial conglomeration Pigface. He wasn't a contributor to the first Pigface album _Gub_ was he? That was the worst excuse for an album ever. With all those big names you would have thought they could have secreted something more worthy. Maybe that was the goal - to release the worse piece of shit ever and see if all their die-hard fans would lap it up. Well I guess I fell for it, but I redeemed myself and sold the CD the next day. 8) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ Eric Frans :: franse@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

1996-07-15 19:21James B GillOn Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Naylor wrote: > Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial cong

From:: James B Gill <jgill@U.Arizona.EDU>
To:: Naylor <jnaylor@indiana.edu>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:21:20 -0700 (MST)
Subject:: (idm) Re: like fuck he was!
Reply to:: Re: (idm) found some goodies

On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Naylor wrote:

quoted 1 line Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial conglomeration Pigface.

> Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial conglomeration Pigface.

umm, not to sound nosey, but could you point out to me which track he worked on? Some bloke I know had that cd, and i tried as hard as ever to find any listing of Patterson's name besides on the front cover. No luck. So I was wondering, what exactly did Alex do on this album? Or did Pigface get desparate for names to add to their collective, since their music is such shit now? Thanx. if anyone here doesn't like "Altered States", they should be shot. Ron Trent is the bomb!!!!!

1996-07-15 20:06Tim Fothegill F. Ciencias Dpto. BiologiaThere have been several Pigface albums each with a slightly different lineup, so it`s quit

From:: Tim Fothegill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia <fothegil@abello.dic.uchile.cl>
To:: James B Gill <jgill@U.Arizona.EDU>
Cc:: Naylor <jnaylor@indiana.edu>, <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:06:08 -0300 (ADT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: like fuck he was!
Reply to:: (idm) Re: like fuck he was!

There have been several Pigface albums each with a slightly different lineup, so it`s quite possible that Alex P. did do something somewhere. Tim On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, James B Gill wrote:

quoted 17 lines On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Naylor wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Naylor wrote: > > > Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial conglomeration Pigface. > > umm, not to sound nosey, but could you point out to me which track he > worked on? Some bloke I know had that cd, and i tried as hard as ever to > find any listing of Patterson's name besides on the front cover. No luck. > So I was wondering, what exactly did Alex do on this album? Or did > Pigface get desparate for names to add to their collective, since their > music is such shit now? Thanx. > > > if anyone here doesn't like "Altered States", they should be shot. > Ron Trent is the bomb!!!!! > > >

1996-07-15 21:03Dan SmithI reviewed this album that came into the radio station like 4-5 years ago by pigface. pigf

From:: Dan Smith <robi@coe.missouri.edu>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:03:26 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: like fuck he was!/PIGFACE
Reply to:: (idm) Re: like fuck he was!

I reviewed this album that came into the radio station like 4-5 years ago by pigface. pigface apparently have something relitively new out as well. in fact, an industrial band named pigface played in st.louis, missouri (that dead in the middle of the US for those who dont know) at the beginning of this year. I looked at the albums and found no reference to alex patterson. I asked people I knew who went to see pigface about the band, and heard no reference to alex patterson, but a big yes to the fact that it was the one and only industrial pigface. maybe alex worked on a project with them, but hid himself under one of many aliases... Daniel Smith robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi

1996-07-15 21:32mallenOn Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Dan Smith wrote: > maybe alex worked on a project with them, but hid

From:: mallen <annwn@zipnet.com>
To:: Dan Smith <robi@coe.missouri.edu>
Cc:: idm <idm@hyperreal.com>, Brian Behlendorf <brian@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:32:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: like fuck he was!/PIGFACE
Reply to:: Re: (idm) Re: like fuck he was!/PIGFACE

On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Dan Smith wrote:

quoted 2 lines maybe alex worked on a project with them, but hid himself under one of

> maybe alex worked on a project with them, but hid himself under one of > many aliases...

alex paterson is listed as a member of pigface on the album notes from thee underground (invisible 1994) annwn@zipnet.com | image | sound | movement | ||||||||||||||||||||||||| you can stop us by simply saying stop ||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||| but keep in mind if you say stop ||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||| its all over its all over ||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||| thats where it stops ||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||| http://www.zipnet.com/annwn/ |||||||||||

1996-07-16 00:13Aaron MichelsonOn Mon, 15 Jul 1996, James B Gill wrote: > umm, not to sound nosey, but could you point ou

From:: Aaron Michelson <amichel@io.org>
To:: James B Gill <jgill@U.Arizona.EDU>
Cc:: Naylor <jnaylor@indiana.edu>, <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 20:13:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: like fuck he was!
Reply to:: (idm) Re: like fuck he was!

On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, James B Gill wrote:

quoted 6 lines umm, not to sound nosey, but could you point out to me which track he

> umm, not to sound nosey, but could you point out to me which track he > worked on? Some bloke I know had that cd, and i tried as hard as ever to > find any listing of Patterson's name besides on the front cover. No luck. > So I was wondering, what exactly did Alex do on this album? Or did > Pigface get desparate for names to add to their collective, since their > music is such shit now? Thanx.

As a bit of a pigface (and pigface fan) I can tell you that it's just one big studio love-in. I assume that Alex didn't make a sizeable contribution, but hung around, loaned equipment, and generally made a nuisance of himself, and influenced the attitude of the final product (all in a good way of course!) I mean, Jello Biafra was also on this disc, and all he did was simply recite the line "Mental illness is the road to freedom." Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org

1996-07-15 08:24Sugatis & Co>Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial conglomeration Pigface. Errm... who wasn

From:: Sugatis & Co <sugatis@inreach.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:24:21 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) found some goodies

quoted 1 line Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial conglomeration Pigface.

>Alex P. was also a contributor of the industrial conglomeration Pigface.

Errm... who wasn't?

1996-07-15 09:30Andrew Cowper> From: guyjr@cc.gatech.edu (Guy Elden, Jr.) > About the newest Orb Peel sessions... what

From:: Andrew Cowper <acowper@dvcorp.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:30:34 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) found some goodies

quoted 6 lines From: guyjr@cc.gatech.edu (Guy Elden, Jr.)

> From: guyjr@cc.gatech.edu (Guy Elden, Jr.) > About the newest Orb Peel sessions... what in the *$!% is that second track > doing there!?!?! AFAIK, it's got _nothing_ to do with the Orb. I'm > assuming Peel threw that one in there to piss us all off... did a right > good job at that on me. :) >

As someone has already pointed out, this is indeed the Orb, with Dr Paterson on shouty vocals. I remember when this was first broadcast. I had my tape recording for the version of o.o.b.e when it suddenly burst into No Fun. I'm thinking this can't be the Orb can it? But Peel never segues into session tracks, he lets them stand alone. I'm glad I didn't turn that tape off, by the time it got all dubby and echoed towards the end I was convinced it was the Orb playing a litle joke. And so it turned to be. Hooray! Cheers Andrew C.

1996-07-15 15:58Mark Turner> > > > From: guyjr@cc.gatech.edu (Guy Elden, Jr.) > > About the newest Orb Peel sessions.

From:: Mark Turner <mturner@netcom.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:58:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: (idm) No Fun
Reply to:: Re: (idm) found some goodies

quoted 17 lines From: guyjr@cc.gatech.edu (Guy Elden, Jr.)

> > > > From: guyjr@cc.gatech.edu (Guy Elden, Jr.) > > About the newest Orb Peel sessions... what in the *$!% is that second track > > doing there!?!?! AFAIK, it's got _nothing_ to do with the Orb. I'm > > assuming Peel threw that one in there to piss us all off... did a right > > good job at that on me. :) > > > As someone has already pointed out, this is indeed the Orb, with > Dr Paterson on shouty vocals. I remember when this was first > broadcast. I had my tape recording for the version of o.o.b.e > when it suddenly burst into No Fun. I'm thinking this can't > be the Orb can it? But Peel never segues into session tracks, he > lets them stand alone. I'm glad I didn't turn that tape off, by > the time it got all dubby and echoed towards the end I was > convinced it was the Orb playing a litle joke. And so it turned > to be. Hooray!

Joke, yes. Patterson on vocals, I don't think so. Sounds like the Sex Pistols to me, vocals courtesy of Mr. J. Rotten. -- Mark Turner mturner@netcom.com

(idm) found some goodies