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1996-06-26 00:26ozymandias G desiderata (idm) Keep the Crossover
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1996-06-26 00:26ozymandias G desiderataI just wanted to relate some brief (you can start laughing now) impressions of my experien
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Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:26:36 -0700
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(idm) Keep the Crossover
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I just wanted to relate some brief (you can start laughing now) impressions of my experience at the Orbital / Underworld show in San Francisco last night, with maybe a brief jog into discussing last Friday's Chemical Brothers show. I had a great time. I mean, a _really_ great time. I haven't danced this hard since last October's great Friends and Family party. I was a fish on a line all night long (aka: hooked), and was only briefly able to stop dancing. Everything about the show kept me moving, from the tight (if overly treble-heavy) sound, the great lighting and video, and the MUSIC. My goodness, the music. So, specifics. I got to the show at around 9:00. Either Jonah Sharpe didn't play live or he was the gent with the short-cropped hair dropping the hard funked Detroit jams. I have to give that guy props. He may always be riding the current trend (and make no mistake - the Detroit sound is _very_ trendy amongst the SF techno elite right now. Big ups to Jon Santos and Joe Rice for being two of the biggest perpetrators behind this fashion conspiracy), but he does it with style and (dare I say it) panache. I approved. The DJ that followed him, though, completely knocked my shit right out. From step one he started dropping the cold, dark techno jams that give me body rushes and make me jerk spasmodically. Cool, precise mixes of tons of material on Reload records (the choice of discerning darkcore beat junkies everywhere), and a few notable surprises (of which I will write more anon). He was exceptional (in my incredibly arrogant opinion -- I imagine that many of my compatriots at the show were less than thrilled. TOO BAD. I was happier than a pig in slop ;). I didn't know they let DJs like that play in SF. Does anybody have any clue who he was? Somewhere along there the DJ winked out and Orbital clambered up to take the stage. As has been mentioned, one of the two Ps was wearing a laser pointer strapped to his flashlight glasses. He did funny things with it all night, but really, who gives a shit? Orbital were all about THE MUSIC. The lights were great, the video was just as good as I was led to expect, but oh dear, I got my ass rocked by the sounds pounding their way away from the speakers. I mean, they _started_ with my current favorite Orbital song ("Out There Somewhere") and proceeded to methodically work their way through the high points of their already very high-point-laden catalog. The reworks of "Choice" and "Satan" were particularly tasty, although I thought my ears were going to jump off and make a run for the hills during the more trebly bits of "Satan". Ouch. And, of course, they played "Halcyon" with the magic little Belinda Carlisle bit, which probably would have affected me more profoundly had I not already been expecting it. They finished with a encore consisting of "Planet of the Shapes" and one of the songs off of _Snivilization_ that I never bothered to learn the name of (me? dislike _Snivilization_? Whatever made you think that?). I think that otherwise their set was probably note-for-note the same as the set they did in LA. I personally could have handled a tiny bit more reworking of Orbital's material. I could hear what they were up to sometimes, but I think a lot of the subtler knob-twiddling got lost, and it was sort of odd knowing exactly where all of the breaks were going to occur. It was life- affirming hearing the artists that made me decide that I wanted to be a DJ play their music REAL LOUD through a big sound system, but I thought one of the positive things about techno was that it encouraged experimentation, right? One thing that their video made much more explicit was that Orbital is unusually political for techno artists. The video made explicit many points about consumer culture, the power of symbols in our culture, and our overweening blindness in the face of rampant environmental destruction. I don't think I'm just pulling that out of my butt, either. Some of it would have been difficult to misinterpret (like all of the shots of guys with chainsaws cutting down trees, f'rinstance). In any case, Orbital were exactly as stunning as I expected them to be, and I could have gotten down on my knees and wept at the beauty of it all, but I was too busy dancing and whooping and generally making an ass of myself to be bothered with such maudlin sentiment (those of you who were there -- I was the tall geeklike person with the pony-tail, packer boots, and the bright cheery Public Image Limited T shirt who kept screaming and had the amateur obstacle course set up next to his feet). After Orbital left the stage, That DJ started up again, spinning more incredible hard traxxy mean-spirited techno stuff, including (drum roll please) the Prodigy remix of Front 242's "Religion". Keep the crossover indeed. Both I and the recently-transplanted Midwesterner I was with were well pleased and grinning like idiots at the surprisingly good music. Don't get me wrong -- there are a lot of really good technohead DJs in San Francisco, but I prefer a harder / more abstract sound than what most people here spin, and it was good to hear some of my favorite tunes spun loud. After an interminable break while the road crew tore down Orbital's incredibly huge stage setup and set up Underworld's marginally less complex array of gear, Messrs Smith, Hyde, and Emerson took to the stage, looking cheery and happy to be there. At this point, I was standing up on the balcony, so was able to see what they were doing on stage, which was basically live mixing of presequenced material. Don't forget that Darren Emerson is a DJ first and foremost. I kinda wondered why they bothered doing it that way, considering that it would have been just as easy to sequence everything, but as they warmed to what they were doing they got more fluid with the mixing and it all made sense. They had a buttload of gear up on stage which I could be a faithful little trainspotter for y'all and detail, but I won't. Suffice it to say that they had the usual array of trendy techno gear, and my partner in crime for the evening spent a good chunk of time torturing himself, trying to decide if the little Roland box mounted vertically in one of their rackmount cases was a 303 or a 606. He finally decided that it was a 606 when he saw Karl Hyde tweaking the cymbals on it late in the show. I'd much earlier decided that it really wasn't worth worrying about. I will say for thems that's curious that they were making very prominent (and obnoxious) use of a Nord Lead throughout the evening, and made me decide that I need one of those, monophonic or not. They certainly do make some jaggedly analogesque noises. I'll also say that it was cool that the only use that I saw for the guitar that Mr. Hyde was hauling around stage with him was to act as the frequency input for the vocoder on his voice. I thought that was a neato change of pace. They played a very long set of very dancy material, which suited me just fine, because I was, in fact, there to dance. I personally thought that the vocals were a perfect counterpoint for the music, but I think that we established long ago that there are those that like Underworld's vocals and those that find them superfluous and annoying. I'm one of the former. High points for me included a great, extended version of "Pearls Girl" and a nicely-done encore of "Cowgirl" and "Rez" played back to back. Hearing "Rez" was a very intensely nostalgic moment for me. If Underworld deserves to be remembered for only one thing, it's definitely that song. What struck me most about Underworld was the enthusiasm they brought to their set. While Orbital were content to bob their heads energetically and occasionally confer with each other, Underworld were positively goofy with energy. All three of them were bobbling enthusiastically around the stage, with Karl and Darren pausing periodically to hype up the crowd. When Karl wasn't singing, he was running around the stage like Moby or something. It was fun to watch. And, of course, getting to see the Tomato video was cool, although it was pretty obvious that the videos were intended to be set to different songs than the ones that were currently playing (a disadvantage when a) your song has words and b) those words are integrated pretty heavily into the video). What was remarkable to me was that in the past two years I've gone from being a die-hard anti-fan of Underworld's to thinking that they are positively the bees' knees. The vocals used to _really_ get on my nerves and the music didn't do much for me, but once again, as they finished off Rez I was just about fit to cry (and just about to fall over, too -- I haven't danced that hard in a LOOONG time). I hadn't really thought about what an important show this was to me until I was there last night, but both of these bands have played pivotal roles in my musical development. If it hadn't been for Orbital, I never would have decided to indulge my musical fanatacism and become a DJ, and if it hadn't been for the amazing singles that Underworld put out a couple years ago ("Spoon [Deep Mix]" anyone?), I'd be a much different sounding DJ now. It was a good night. As a brief side note, I did go to see Chemical Brothers last Friday night, and they did in fact go straight for the throat. Those kids do _not_ fuck around. Bombastic beats, dark atmospheres, and light-show imagery rife with images of death, destruction, and repression. Considering how often their music is played by jolly la-di-da handbag club DJs, it was surprising how much their set made me think of a different kind of club altogether. Most excellent, especially the new material, which wasn't quite so {hip|trip|crip}-hop oriented. After they got into a groove they even seemed to be having fun. I think I saw one of them smile once or twice. They also had another wonderful opening DJ (this time DJ Terminator, who played excellent hardstep jungle with good humor, despite the fact that he was in the lighting booth up near the ceiling, had no monitor, and therefore had absolutely no idea what his mixing sounded like). Unfortunately, the [expletive deleted] Trocadero had its usual quirks, this time being a dishwater-dull crowd and some very irritating sound system problems. I'm sorry, but every time I see the name "Blasthaus" on a flyer, I _know_ the party's going to be full of the sort of irritating faux-hipsters (which I guess could be shortened by the omission of the "faux-") guaranteed to set my teeth on edge. Maybe I'm an opinionated, easily-irritated codger, though. Maybe. I _was_ surprised at how friendly and cheerful the Trocadero doorfolk were, I will admit. But now that I think about it, they've always been nice to me, even when they've been firmly telling me (f'rinstance) that I can't bring my pepper spray into the club. Maybe I just look close enough to Goth to pass. Maybe I just relate well to shaven-head death-metal headz. I shrug. yrz, ozymandias onNow: sqpr - "tundra" / "dimotane co" (I have a feeling I like a completely different album than the rest of you, because tracks like these are peachy, but Mr. Jenkinson could drop his bass out the window and I'd still like the album just as much. In fact, the reason I like this album as much as I do has to do with its strong resemblance to works by *cough* Aphex Twin or *cough* *cough* Mu-Ziq more than any resemblance to the current crop of ambient jazz innovative listening progressive intelligent dolphin softstep jungle-meisters.) . . . the self-reflecting image of a narcotized mind . . . ozymandias G desiderata ogd@organic.com Desperate, Deathless (415)278-5674 http://www.organic.com/Staff/ogd/ ::AOAIOXXYSZ::
1996-06-26 01:06Joe RiceAt 5:26 PM -0700 6/25/96, ozymandias G desiderata wrote: > >So, specifics. I got to the sh
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Joe Rice
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Date:
Tue, 25 Jun 1996 18:06:23 -0700
Subject:
(idm) Re: Keep the Crossover
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At 5:26 PM -0700 6/25/96, ozymandias G desiderata wrote:
quoted 4 lines So, specifics. I got to the show at around 9:00. Either Jonah Sharpe> >So, specifics. I got to the show at around 9:00. Either Jonah Sharpe >didn't play live or he was the gent with the short-cropped hair dropping >the hard funked Detroit jams.
Yep, that would be Jonah. Guess he's out of his jungle phase.
quoted 10 lines The DJ that followed him, though, completely knocked my shit right>The DJ that followed him, though, completely knocked my shit right >out. From step one he started dropping the cold, dark techno jams that >give me body rushes and make me jerk spasmodically. Cool, precise mixes >of tons of material on Reload records (the choice of discerning darkcore >beat junkies everywhere), and a few notable surprises (of which I will >write more anon). He was exceptional (in my incredibly arrogant opinion >-- I imagine that many of my compatriots at the show were less than >thrilled. TOO BAD. I was happier than a pig in slop ;). I didn't know >they let DJs like that play in SF. Does anybody have any clue who he was? >
Yep, that would be Darren Price. Dunno much about him except that he has a 12 on NovaMute. Joe (:Joe Rice:____________:joe@psychoactive.com:____________:ambient@netcom.com:) (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) (: anything like it!" :)
1996-06-26 16:29Lazlo Nibble> Underworld were positively goofy with energy. All three of them were > bobbling enthusia
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Lazlo Nibble
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Intelligent Dance Music
Date:
Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:29:22 -0600 (MDT)
Subject:
(idm) Keep the Crossover
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quoted 4 lines Underworld were positively goofy with energy. All three of them were> Underworld were positively goofy with energy. All three of them were > bobbling enthusiastically around the stage, with Karl and Darren pausing > periodically to hype up the crowd. When Karl wasn't singing, he was > running around the stage like Moby or something. It was fun to watch.
Some folks seemed to think this was just Karl putting on some kind of poseur "show", but for some reason I think he really IS enjoying himself THAT MUCH when they're on stage. I mean, I was having at least that much fun being in the crowd! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)