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At 15:16 4-06-96, you wrote:

quoted 9 lines Meat Beat Manifesto:

> >Meat Beat Manifesto: >>This is two CDs just jam packed with exceptional noises. Better >>than every so-called "trip hop" release on Ninja Tune and Mo'Wax >>put together. > >Lets not get carried away here. This is at best a medicore record. >I just love to see all the bands scrambling for a peice of the >trip-hop/jungle pie (a KFMDM jungle track? Get serious...).

Hope you're not trying to say MBM is.. With Helter Skelter MBM made jungle five years ago. MBM cannot be compared with any band anyway. gonzales - delsin http://wwwedu.cs.utwente.nl/~wielen

Gonzales said once upon a time:

quoted 3 lines Hope you're not trying to say MBM is.. With Helter Skelter MBM

>Hope you're not trying to say MBM is.. With Helter Skelter MBM >made jungle five years ago. MBM cannot be compared with any band >anyway.

We're stretching the definition of jungle here. Unless there's some 110 bpm jungle out there.

Hi,

quoted 5 lines Gonzales said once upon a time:

>Gonzales said once upon a time: > >>Hope you're not trying to say MBM is.. With Helter Skelter MBM >>made jungle five years ago. MBM cannot be compared with any band >>anyway.

To which Pete Ashdown replied:

quoted 2 lines We're stretching the definition of jungle here. Unless there's some 110 bpm

>We're stretching the definition of jungle here. Unless there's some 110 bpm >jungle out there.

Photek's new 12" Hidden Camera contains the title track, which i've been told is 95 bpm. So check out some of that slow jungle vibe. :) Regards, John /-------------------------------------------------------------------\ | JOHN BUS (aka. JOHNNY TURBO) | | SNAIL - Digital Access Records | | PO Box 1838 Macquarie 2113 Australia | | EMAIL - John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au | \-------------------------------------------------------------------/

In message <199606050431.AA07206@dcetsun.syd.dcet.CSIRO.AU> John Bus <John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au> wrote:

quoted 7 lines To which Pete Ashdown replied:

> To which Pete Ashdown replied: > >We're stretching the definition of jungle here. Unless there's some 110 bpm > >jungle out there. > > Photek's new 12" Hidden Camera contains the title track, which i've been > told is 95 bpm. > So check out some of that slow jungle vibe. :)

Take a close look at the label and you'll see that it plays at 45rpm rather than 33 1/3! Try it at the right speed and it clocks in at about 126 BPM (still pretty slow) rather than a little under 95 BPM on 33. :-) Still, who cares, it sounds good at either speed! Cheers, Graeme. ============================================================================= Graeme Foster graeme@beatmix.demon.co.uk

Luger - Mysterioso (Leaf) Spring Heel Jack - Day of the Dead, from There are Strings (Rough Trade) both are c120bpm and use D&B rhythms and, more on a techno tip with jungle influences, at about 130: Area 9 - Klint's Henderson's Relish (Earth) Octagon Man - Phonic Maze (Electron Industries) J ^ __________ ________.__/_____ _||_/ James Skilton aka Steady J _[]/_____________[.__\____-_ DJ and Party Animal | | Part Time Hedonist |____________________________| Full Time Technohead |__|-' '-|__| Steady-J@Firefox.co.uk

Rae & Christian's "In Rhodes" off the the fat city comp is a good example of the slower jungle style. I haven't really heard anything else that's in the same vein, but this track is well worth tracking down.

Hi! On 04-06-96, Gd wrote... G >This reminds me - I've heard Photek's 'Into the 90s', and it sounds much more G >like trip-hop to me than slow jungle. The beats aren't turned around G >or mashed up but rather are just the same loop over and over. Are G >there any artists doing jungle around 100-120 bpm? At 120 the beats G >are somewhat slower, but can be frantic given the right sounds... As soon as people play with the tempos, it will stop being called Jungle or Drum and Bass, and will simply become Breakbeat. Which is good, isn't it? Cheers, SjaY. *Fido* 2:250/151 *E-Mail* Geotrax@jukjoint.warp.co.uk ... 'Into The 90s' - Photek ___ * UniQWK v4.1 * The Windows Mail Reader