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1996-02-27 16:36Tim Fothegill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia (idm) Chelsea Grin
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1996-02-27 16:36Tim Fothegill F. Ciencias Dpto. BiologiaLast year I bought a couple of Chelsea Grin 12?s, which are excellent. I was wondering if
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Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:36:58 -0400 (AST)
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(idm) Chelsea Grin
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Last year I bought a couple of Chelsea Grin 12?s, which are excellent. I was wondering if they?ve done anything else apart from these two 12?s. I was also wondering about any other all female groups, who seem to be underrepresented in IDM. Not sure if this is down to discouragement from labels and music institutions (such as the clubs) or whether they just aren?t getting the recognition they deserve. If Chelsea Grin are anything to go by then there should be a lot more women doing, or getting recognition, in IDM. lots of love Tim
1996-03-01 19:36ozymandias G desiderataAs far as I know, the only Chelsea Grin records out there are the "Animal Factory" and "Fa
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Re: (idm) Chelsea Grin
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As far as I know, the only Chelsea Grin records out there are the "Animal Factory" and "Facelifter" EPs on Sabrettes. You're right -- they're both premium pieces of evil, intelligent techno. "Animal Factory" is one of the hardest records I own, and is impressive in its use of texture (as opposed to speed) to build its brick-hard facade. The "women underrepresented in techno" theme pops up on this list every so often, and nothing definitive ever comes from the ensuing discussions / flamewars. Maybe it's that techno is made by music-geek gearheads, most of whom are male. Maybe it's that the power structure in the music industry (which includes techno) is overwhelmingly male. I don't know and I really don't care to speculate, because this is an argument we don't particularly need to have again. Yet. ;) Sabrettes (Chelsea Grin's label) is run by Nina Walsh (whose work as Slab on Hydrogen Dukebox ("certified weirdo music") is worth checking out -- great acid breakbeat tracks), and it's been pretty friendly towards female artists, but even its roster is overwhelmingly male. Hopefully, as techno / idm / ambient / jungle matures, more women will get pulled into the fray, but for now, techno is a boy's game. yrz, ozy