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1995-12-12 22:13Jason W. King (idm) ON DISC: Eno, eh? (fwd)
1995-12-12 23:03Jon Drukman Re: (idm) ON DISC: Eno, eh? (fwd)
1995-12-12 23:34Rex C. Arthur Re: (idm) ON DISC: Eno, eh? (fwd)
└─ 1995-12-13 17:03Jason W. King Re: (idm) ON DISC: Eno, eh? (fwd)
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1995-12-12 22:13Jason W. King---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Dec 95 20:36 WET From: eye WEEKLY <ey
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Dec 95 20:36 WET From: eye WEEKLY <eye5@interlog.com> To: eye-music@bronze.interlog.com, eye-l@bronze.interlog.com Newgroups: eye.news, rec.music.reviews Subject: ON DISC: Eno, eh? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ eye WEEKLY December 7 1995 Toronto's arts newspaper .....free every Thursday ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ON DISC ON DISC PASSENGERS Original Soundtracks 1 Island/A&M/PolyGram ENO/WOBBLE Scanner All Saints/Virgin/Emi BRIAN ENO The EG Records Catalog Virgin/EMI by JASON ANDERSON Before discussing Mr. Brian Eno's two discs of freshly baked goods, I'm searching for something New and Intelligent to say about the Eno back-catalog on EG Records, now re-released on Virgin/EMI as single discs. There may not be, but what the hell. After art school, young Brian gave up on his dreams of becoming an experimental orthodontist and then helped found Roxy Music. Fired after Bryan Ferry objected to his feather boa, Eno began a career as a non-musician and big thinker, a Vegas dealer of Oblique Strategies cards and a collaborator pivotal in the careers of David Bowie, U2, the Talking Heads and, er, James. Twenty years on, the four "rock" albums -- Here Come The Warm Jets, Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy), Another Green World and Before And After Science -- still comprise one of the most phenomenal artistic hot streaks in music. Warm Jets ('73) and Taking Tiger Mountain ('74) are full of songs that pack more ideas in a 15-second passage than 99 per cent of us have in a good year -- surrealism you can dance to... and how. But even as he reigned as the post-Roxy art rock king, Eno's interest in environmental/experimental sounds was quickly developing. Re- released last year as a two-fer are the mostly mellow albums with Robert Fripp -- No Pussyfooting and Evening Star. The latter dates to '75, around the same time as Another Green World -- on which Eno's pop craft is at its most serene and the majority of the tracks are exquisite, vocal-free shimmers -- and Discreet Music, often cited as the first "ambient" album. Discreet Music seems duller than dishwater now -- indeed, the usefulness of nearly everything after 1977's Before And After Science (a truly madcap, dark and essential record) is questionable, and it's hard to see how anyone but the dearest aesthete could feel passionate about these albums. Music For Airports ('78) is compellingly austere relative to the work of the current generation of ambient technicians, but the same year's Music For Films is pointless as only this music can be (it actually seems to lose something without the crackle on my vinyl). The next phase of albums is devoted chiefly to collaborations -- Fourth World Vol. 1 with trumpeter Jon Hassell is touch-and-go, but The Pearl and The Plateaux Of Mirror with Harold Budd are appealing because of the more emotionally engaging nature of Budd's piano twaddle. Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re-engagement with mass culture as producer of U2's The Unforgettable Fire, Ambient 4: On Land and Thursday Afternoon mark a nadir for Eno's noodling (Apollo with Daniel Lanois is the best of this lot, though it's not on Virgin's release schedule). And then he's back in the mainstream, though his impact is felt equally through the production work of surrogate muso Lanois. Interesting (Wrong Way Up with John Cale and Nerve Net) and dreadful (Neroli) discs follow, but the peak of the last decade of Eno-dom is U2's Zooropa, on which the lads discover the meaning of fun as Eno feeds ideas that date back to Warm Jets into the world's biggest rock act. The Passengers' Original Soundtracks 1 sees Eno joining U2 for a collection of largely bogus film scores (at least I hope so -- if some of the films described in the liner notes are genuine, cinema is lost to us forever). The album has its moments, even when weighed down (oof) by the presence of Luciano Pavarotti (what is that man after, anyway?). "Miss Sarajevo" is pure lunacy, and on songs like "Corpse," Bono displays a sense of humor without implying, "Hey, it's me, Bono! I have a sense of humor!" Plenty of bass in your face amidst some chilling set-pieces. The woofers go through even greater abuse for Spinner, Eno's first collaboration with mega-bassist Jah Wobble, who, like Eno, must've run out of other people to work with. Low-key where Original Soundtracks 1 is arch, the fact that Spinner sounds like late-period Can isn't surprising considering the presence of both Wobble (a vet of a few post-Can Holger Czukay records) and Can drummer Jaki Leibeziet. The groove is the thing, even if the proceedings are much too arty to approach funk proper. The interaction between Eno and Wobble on a song like "Marine Radio" is a bit reminiscent of the Eno/Budd records in that the egghead is forced into his partner's propensity for the intangible "feel." But Spinner is not as entertaining as Original Soundtracks 1 nor as powerful as Eno/Bowie's Outside, which sounds a helluva lot better today than it did three months ago. And that's one way of saying that, whatever else may apply, Eno's work certainly ages well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Retransmit freely in cyberspace Author holds standard copyright http://www.interlog.com/eye Mailing list available music archives at ------------> http://www.interlog.com/eye/Arts/Music eye@interlog.com "...Break the Gutenberg Lock..." 416-971-8421
1995-12-12 23:03Jon Drukman> Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re-engagement with mass > culture as producer o
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quoted 3 lines Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re-engagement with mass> Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re-engagement with mass > culture as producer of U2's The Unforgettable Fire, Ambient 4: On Land > and Thursday Afternoon mark a nadir for Eno's noodling
i would just like to say that this reviewer is totally and utterly full of it. ambient 4 and thursday afternoon are two of the most hypnotic and compelling albums ever made. -j-
1995-12-12 23:34Rex C. Arthur>> Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re-engagement with mass >> culture as producer
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quoted 9 lines Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re-engagement with mass>> Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re-engagement with mass >> culture as producer of U2's The Unforgettable Fire, Ambient 4: On Land >> and Thursday Afternoon mark a nadir for Eno's noodling > >i would just like to say that this reviewer is totally and utterly full of >it. >ambient 4 and thursday afternoon are two of the most hypnotic and >compelling albums >ever made.
too true. i also think the comments regarding the two new albums are way off. i've listened to the eno/wobble album a few times and i already think it's the best thing eno's done in a very long time. i think that the person who did this review is approaching the music from a completely different angle than most of us on this list would. i believe that most people who like idm will really enjoy the wobble album quite a bit, where the passenger lp just sucks. like i really need to hear bono sing with pavarotti.
1995-12-13 17:03Jason W. KingOn Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Rex C. Arthur wrote: > >> Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re
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On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Rex C. Arthur wrote:
quoted 18 lines Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re-engagement with mass> >> Into the '80s and up to the eve of Eno's re-engagement with mass > >> culture as producer of U2's The Unforgettable Fire, Ambient 4: On Land > >> and Thursday Afternoon mark a nadir for Eno's noodling > > > >i would just like to say that this reviewer is totally and utterly full of > >it. > >ambient 4 and thursday afternoon are two of the most hypnotic and > >compelling albums > >ever made. > > too true. i also think the comments regarding the two new albums are way > off. i've listened to the eno/wobble album a few times and i already think > it's the best thing eno's done in a very long time. i think that the > person who did this review is approaching the music from a completely > different angle than most of us on this list would. i believe that most > people who like idm will really enjoy the wobble album quite a bit, where > the passenger lp just sucks. like i really need to hear bono sing with > pavarotti.
I have seen this reviewer write about a lot of stuff, but never anything to similar to what we discuss on the list. I wonder why they had him do it. Sometimes there little worse than music reviewed by people who don't listen/like the genre. Oh well. jay ______________________________________________________________________________ Jason W. King http://calum.uwaterloo.ca/u/jw2king jw2king@calum.uwaterloo.ca ...how can he be so skinny? and live so phat?