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quoted 7 lines ACID style music is a thing of the 90's (mostly)

>>>ACID style music is a thing of the 90's (mostly) > >uh, not really. acid was purely mid late 80s IMO. it may still exist today >but it definitely started well before now. check out early jack the tab, dj >fast eddie "acid thunder", guy called gerald, mashall jefferson, phuture, the >acid test, kikit, baby ford and the list goes on and on. All from 1987-1989 >when the true raves began.

hmmm.. reading over this, i don't get the feeling that the reply was a personal afront.. in fact, i think it was a simple, informative statement.. it's true, acid is certainly not a new thing.. be happy, the replier could have bogged you down with references to early new wave acts, something that i feel is rather over zealous.. what he did was to remind everyone that the kind of stuff that many of these "acid innovators" are doing is not particularly original.. the entire plastikman sound is a continuation of the kind of stuff that Robert Owens did back in '85 ("in the land"), and the entire hard/trak acid thing was tried many times over by the likes of k alexi and poindexter.. Even the entire breakdown and 16th/32nd note snare build-up jerk off was already conceived by Conders in "nervous acid".. alot of people don't know this stuff and falsely praise the new jacks for a false genius.. however, this does not serve to criticize was has been done recently.. personally, the word acid and the word track can rarely be seperated, and a good track is always a nice addition to the dancefloor.. however, a good song (not necessarily verse/chorus) lasts forever.. i see the entire acid groove thing as simply functional, in that it's fun to sway too.. however, i don't see it as innovation.. the filter sweep is fun, but there's alot more to be done sonically.. Anywho.. the kid was not out to dis you.. he was simply correcting your misconception.. don't get frantic.. isn't this list here to teach us all something? .., ........, .........., .........., ........, .., B.U.a.R.P. http://students.vassar.edu/~jahodge/BUaRP.html

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:53:01 -0600 From: Mark Bowen <mb@gettins.bche.uic.edu> To: VIDELA GILBERT MARCEL <videla@ucsu.colorado.edu> Subject: Re: (idm) CLassic 303 ?

quoted 1 line ACID style music is a thing of the 90's (mostly)

>>ACID style music is a thing of the 90's (mostly)

uh, not really. acid was purely mid late 80s IMO. it may still exist today but it definitely started well before now. check out early jack the tab, dj fast eddie "acid thunder", guy called gerald, mashall jefferson, phuture, the acid test, kikit, baby ford and the list goes on and on. All from 1987-1989 when the true raves began. -- Mark Bowen mb@gettins.bche.uic.edu ************************************************************************** REPLY: Well excuse me! you seem like those types of people who make other people feel worthless for their ignorance for not being into the scene as early as you were. like this makes you a better IDM fan than me. This is just like those long time punk fans who get mad at people who are into the new GREEN DAY bands because they weren't into the SEX PISTOLS when they were around. I am sorry to make you aware, but people do get into different things at different times and in the process, they haven't heard every band that ever was. So excuse me for not knowing about these other artists! "When the true raves began!" Who the hell are you to define what a true rave is, KING RAVEMAN. Yes, there is a different rave culture today than the one that existed years back, but that doesn't give you right to dis it. I don't go to them myself, but I support the scene as you should be doing to! It is how i got turned on to IDM and may be the path for others. And about ACID music, I couldn't give a shit about it anyway. I asked a question about how the 303 was used in the early days, something you claim to know a lot about. If you have anything about the 303's early days please answer my questions, if not, don't clogg my email with this BS> i appreciate all the info on these artist I know little about, but you need a better approach! GMV500 ON NOW, an IDM classic! Kraftwerk's Trans. . .Xpress PS I appreciate everyone else's responses to my 303?

On Mon, 4 Dec 4, some nutcase wrote:

quoted 2 lines uh, not really. acid was purely mid late 80s IMO. it may still exist today

> uh, not really. acid was purely mid late 80s IMO. it may still exist today > but it definitely started well before now. check out early jack the tab,

What the hell does jack the tab have to do w/ real acid, besides serving as yet another footnote to the massive body of evidence pointing to Genesis Oatmeal Porridge being totally clueless? If you think jack the tab is acieed just because it says Acid Tracks on the cover, then you've been fooled. Che

What about Altern 8???