I love the smell of flame-wars in the morning ;)
On Fri, 20 May 1994, Michael King wrote:
quoted 2 lines Umm, so why call it the I*D*M list? Why didn't you call it the I*L*M> Umm, so why call it the I*D*M list? Why didn't you call it the I*L*M
> (Intelligent _Listening_ Music)?
Because ILM wouldnt cover everything I wanted to talk about..
quoted 3 lines Reading this intro, it comes off as "the Warp AI CD Fan Club". I mean, the> Reading this intro, it comes off as "the Warp AI CD Fan Club". I mean, the
> whole cover art analysis is a bit obsessive on first read. It isn't *that*
> significant a disk in the overall soundscape of IDM listening.
Maybe not, but it is as Chris said, one of the truely definitive
releases in the genre..
quoted 3 lines At some point, however, we can easily decompose into an "elitist" stance,> At some point, however, we can easily decompose into an "elitist" stance,
> simply because we are _not_ part of the mainstream in musical tastes if we
> are not careful.
I think elitism also come with the territory. Lists such as this were
created to escape arseholes on such forums as alt.rave and
alt.music.techno which have bascially come down to the level of wanking
over who has the biggest and most annoying sig now..
quoted 4 lines Hey, I think that the Rozalla CD has some really deep cover art, too. It> Hey, I think that the Rozalla CD has some really deep cover art, too. It
> relates really well to the music. So why isn't it right up there with the
> AI CD on the IDM "worship-list"? 'Cuz having well thought out cover art
> isn't a criteria for being considered IDM.
No, its not up there because its crap, and its not what id call a
definitive release in the genre of idm. Would you?
quoted 3 lines I mean, I wouldn't play a single track from AI at any party where> I mean, I wouldn't play a single track from AI at any party where
> people are dancing and expect them to continue dancing once the track
> starts.
Well, I think many on this list would. Listen, it might not be Rozalla,
but it still danceable ;)
quoted 3 lines The IDM list is virtual discussion about current electronic-based music,> The IDM list is virtual discussion about current electronic-based music,
> for listening, dancing, and cogitating to, not necessarily all three nor
> simultaneously (but it helps),
Bullshit. This covers everything from breakbeat to europop to gabber to
trance to house to hardcore to ambient to techno to idm to pop to
industrial. I didnt set up this list so we could talk about two
unlimited, erasure, front242, moby, and lenny dee. If you want to talk
about these, I suggest you subscribe to the appropriate lists.
quoted 1 line That's it. Brief and to the point.> That's it. Brief and to the point.
See above.
quoted 2 lines Anybody subbing to idm-reviews get anything different than the list? I'm> Anybody subbing to idm-reviews get anything different than the list? I'm
> considering getting on both lists,
You don't need to be on both, you get everything idm-reviews gets here.
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