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From:
mantrakid
To:
'Ed Hoc'
Cc:
'Armchair Techno'
Date:
Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:14:49 -0700
Subject:
RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno
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Now you're just fuckin with me. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:13 PM To: mantrakid Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno so what about a sample of a record that has synth sounds? On Jan 4, 2008 12:10 AM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter> But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter
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quoted 1 line me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops> me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops
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quoted 69 lines cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound.> cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound. > > I'm talking about sampling in the tradition of hip hop as i've said a few > times now. So taking a clip of an old 70's funk song and making techno out > of it. I can honestly say i have no consciously heard any music or artists > doing that, so that's why im asking. > > I know techno is close to house/disco house/etc so i want to express that > looping a 70's disco track with some 909 on top and some chick moaning & > singing overtop it all is not what im talking about... > > I mean gritty dirty DJ Muggs, DJ Format, Mark B, Old Beastie Boys, etc. > > Here's an example *kinda* what im talking about but even this is a bit too > glitchy & crisp. Im looking for more 'low fi' type shit. > > http://www.zshare.net/audio/6127257c3d16a2/ > > Don't mean to be a fucker but im getting frustrated cuz it seems like im > either not expressing myself clearly or else im not being understood > properly. In either situation, i apologize. :D > > Isnt this fun? > > .M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:59 PM > To: mantrakid > Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > those aesthetics would include just using a computer 'at this stage in > the game', i.e. 2007, so what's the difference between a soft synth > and a soft sampler? > > On Jan 3, 2008 11:44 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in > the > > game. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:32 PM > > To: mantrakid > > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > > i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only > > avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point > > is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that > > stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking > > for... > > > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... > > there > > > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD > > > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im > > > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled > music" > > > techno.... > > > > > > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially > repeat > > > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever...
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quoted 34 lines you> > you > > > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the > repeated > > > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format.... > pretty > > > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster > tempo.... > > > > > > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) > > > > > > M > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM > > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno > > > > > > > > > what about soft synths...? > > > > > > Element Abuse > > > Smear > > > Maggot Farmer > > > DJ Producer > > > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 > Jan > > > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; > > > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> > The > > > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me > > into > > > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum
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quoted 11 lines based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing> > > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing > > exist? > > > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ > > Muggs > > > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty > > sample > > > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in > the > > > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people
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