A recommendation of something i just finished:
Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang
Good sci-fi short stories. Good ideas more than anything.
Also lately i liked Cassini Division by Ken Macleod.
Its part of a series but i haven't read all of the previous books,
but its good hard scifi that feels informed by cyberpunk,
but not really in that tradition...
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From: "Robert Feuchtl" <bobhumid@groove.de>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [idm] fiction reading, writing
quoted 100 lines hey,
>
> hey,
>
> if you want to dig deep into the soul of scifi and its substance you´ll
> have to read late american 50ies / 60ies scifi and the things that came
> afterwards... that is the relevant period. while in the 60ies american
> television and cinema illustrated their subsconsious fear about russian
> invasions by issueing the never-ending "alien invasion" topic the real
> shit was only in the books.. the focus was on deep human psychology and
> scifi-writers where way ahead of their times..
>
> look for books by these geniouses..
>
> more psy-fi
> phillip k dick (u know him)
> john brunner (get a copy of "players and the play of people" and
> "quicksand"
> frank herbert ("the santaroga barrier")
>
> more classical scifi
> philipp josé farmer ("riverworld")
> jack vance (the mighty romancier of scifi, he created hyper-realistic
> scenarios of alien worlds and cultures, read the "alastor"-cyclus...)
>
> from the later writers I like Ian Banks... (but thats 80ies)
>
> but there is more excellent writers but I don´t dare to go down into my
> underground vaults cause I might nog get back before midnight ;)
>
> bob humid
>
>
> Adam Piontek wrote:
>
>> Never could get into Gibson (but then I've only read 1.6 Gibson books,
>> perhaps I should give him another shot someday)
>>
>> ...or "cyberpunk" in general. Always seemed too faddish, more style than
>> substance - I mean, it always seemed too disconnected from possible
>> reality, more tech-fantasy than sci-fi. But then sci-fi and fantasy are
>> pretty much one and the same, really. Speaking of which, The closest
>> I've come to enjoying cyberpunk was China Mieville's _Perdido Street
>> Station_, which I know isn't really cyberpunk - if anything it's
>> "steampunk", but I wanted to mention it because it's a beautiful book.
>> Does anyone know if his "sequel" books "The Scar" and "Iron Council" are
>> similar at all, or "as good"?
>>
>> I suppose "cyberpunk" is the IDM fiction style - comes to mind when
>> thinking of early Warp (B12, early Autechre...)
>>
>> But don't real hackers only rave? :P
>> -adam piontek
>>
>> n3wjack wrote:
>>
>>> or William Gibson,
>>> TEH cyberpunk writer imo
>>>
>>> Philip K. Dick rulz btw, started reading some of his books after
>>> seeing Blade Runner which was based on his "Do Androids Dream of
>>> Electric Sheep" book
>>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 09:31:02 -0400, Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well Lem is good, of course. Never read any Philip K Dick, but I keep
>>>> meaning to. Kim Stanley Robinson is also good, and he wrote his thesis
>>>> on PKD. Don't read his Antarctica, though, it's not very good.
>>>>
>>>> Other than that I give high respect to Ken MacLeod and Alastair
>>>> Reynolds
>>>> - Scottish & Welsh/Dutch (respectively) authors of smart space opera...
>>>> Something vaguely IDM about them. If you like Vernor Vinge...
>>>>
>>>> -adam piontek
>>>
>>
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