On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:23:13 -0400 Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote:
quoted 12 lines I just have to reply to this in my own way:> I just have to reply to this in my own way:
>
> On May 11, 2004, at 12:10 PM, visa wrote:
> > Does anyone else feel that Proem is The Most Stereotypically Idm artist
> > ever?
> >
> > All the major IDM clichés are condensed into his formula. Ethereal
> > pads and
> > sharp crunchy beats my ass...
>
> I can see how someone would think that, but I think he has his own
> Proemy spin on it and I really like it.
I agree. He's seems to have taken a recognisable generic template and
embroidered over it in such a way as to create his own 'voice'.
quoted 3 lines I would apply the same description to Phonem, Arovane, Funckarma, and a load> I would apply the same description to Phonem, Arovane, Funckarma, and a load
> of others.
> Boring to me, sounds like they're trying to be Autechre.
I don't agree. They've all taken the early-AE template and tweaked it
differently. I would argue that none of them actually sound anything like
Autechre. I would say that Arovane very quickly developed his own unmistakeable
signature style, likewise Funckarma (and Quench for that matter). As for Phonem,
I would argue less for the merit and individuality of his work. Point being,
all of them work from within an established (sonic) framework; this is quite
normal in many (artistic) areas, where genre features drive the production of
something individual but recognisably belonging to a tradition. I guess what
some of the posters have been saying about Proem is that they find that his
music incarnates those formal genre features a little too 'perfectly'.
quoted 5 lines But lately I've been getting into Funckarma, like, all their stuff back to> But lately I've been getting into Funckarma, like, all their stuff back to
> Parts and everything. And it always bored me before. Just goes to show it's
> pretty much all subjective. It's we who grow and hear and sometimes
> forget how to hear what we once loved. The music, it's all just so
> much sound and fury... :P
Interestingly, I've found recent Funckarma output (on EP) to be harder to
appreciate the more they seem to have explored a more personalised style.
'DemSongzByWe' is particularly difficult to digest. 'Smizm' goes down a little
easier, but for me the earlier 'Bourbon Sounds' and 'Parts' knock 'em into a
cocked hat. Puts me in mind a little of what happened to Autechre pre- v.
post-1995.
alan
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