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From:
John von Seggern
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, terrahertz_og
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Date:
Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:13:36 -0800 (PST)
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Re: [idm] Re: Pastorius vs Jenkinson (was: braindance / fusion)
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Yo d00dz -- I'm a bassist and believe me, Jaco's influence is so pervasive that even if Tom J never heard him before he would still be influenced by him without knowing it simply by listening to other bassists who have been influenced by Jaco. Before Jaco nobody even had the vaguest idea of doing such crazy shit on the bass, he brought the instrument to a whole other level...Squarepusher is cool and extremely innovative in a lot of ways but he didn't think of that bass style all by his lonesome, since Jaco did it in the 70s there have been many other players who followed in that 'lead bass' vein, Tom is just a more recent version... John --- saltimbocca@gmx.de wrote:
quoted 17 lines yeah that's amazing - you'd think he must have been> yeah that's amazing - you'd think he must have been > aware of jaco, the > way he plays and also because he's so much younger. > Well, who knows.... > > I love both too > > Cheers, > R. > Am 04.03.2004 um 22:35 schrieb terrahertz_og: > > > I always thought Jaco influenced Tom as well, > until I > > read this interview: > > > > >
http://www.ink19.com/issues/september2001/inkSpots/squarepusher.html
quoted 63 lines "When I hear some of your more bass-oriented> > > > "When I hear some of your more bass-oriented > music, I > > hear a lot of Jaco Pastorius. > > > > It's weird with the Jaco thing, because I'd never > > heard his stuff, and I was doing this thing where > I > > thought I was inventing a style. And lo and > behold, > > Jaco had already done it, it was already there. > That > > blew my head off, when I first heard him...." > > > > I'm a huge fan of both, and at times it almost > seems > > like Tom is channeling Jaco. Too bad they'll > never > > collaborate (in this world). > > > > N. > > > >>>> > > saltimbocca@gmx.de wrote: > > > > Miles probably started it all - "Bitches Brew", > > "Agharta" and other 70s albums, then Weather > Report > > (who in their own right would be worthy of > discussion > > on this list b/c of Jaco's influence on Tom > > Jenkinson), Mahavishnu Orchestra ... all those > > followed in the 80s by Chick Corea's Electric > Band, > > Allan Holdsworth, and a truckload others. > Nowadays, > > Fusion has become synonymous with boring > muzak-style > > music by virtuoso players who somehow have no > taste > > (not just my opinion). Anyway, I think Braindance > is > > a wicked term for this kind of musick they call > IDM > > around here. :-) Just listening to Black Dog's > Bytes > > - what a wonderful record - you can still hear > traces > > of the 80s in it I think > > > > I think this message board rules! good fun to post > and > > read here.... > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for > faster > > http://search.yahoo.com > > > > >
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