quoted 7 lines Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <leak@gmx.at> quoted:>Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <leak@gmx.at> quoted:
>Greg Baker wrote:
> > I also wanted to ask everyone if they really consider albums like
>> Apropra't (s&s) and Pause/Rounds (four tet), all 3 of which someone
>> might call folktronica, to be IDM.
>
>Same thing more or less goes for Ekkehard Ehlers/Maerz I'd guess.
doesn't ehlers change styles on different albums? i just got
"bertreib" and i wouldn;t call that IDM by any stretch of the
imagination. it may be electronic-based in execution, but it's
cutups of classical pieces and chunks of noise. like nurse with
wound plays stockhausen.
to answer the original question: i'd say that since IDM is fairly
amorphous (though IMO not amorphous enough to include the
above-mentioned ehlers CD), the characteristics of most music called
IDM are still present in what is called folktronica, so i would see
no problem with grouping them together in one section of a record
store.
whether or not you want to consider folktronica a "subgenre" of IDM
to me depends on whether or not you believe folktronica *grew out of*
music that has been called IDM.
e.g., (totally fictional here!) kieran hebden was listening to the
likes of black dog and two lone swordsmen and influenced by it, but
created his own thing by adding folksy samples and pastoral melodies.
as an aside, my band was already working on songs combining folk and
electronics when i heard the term "folktronica" a few years ago
(email me for a link if you're interested in hearing a clip). i was
somewhat surprised to hear some of the actual music, because i
thought it would be more of a hybrid than a subgenre of electronic
music (i.e. there are no real guitars or other folk instruments used,
they are samples). this isn't cutting down on them, since i like
four tet's "rounds" very much. but to me a better example is fog,
whose "ether teeth" is more like what i expected, and also just
amazing.
d.
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