definately, i agree. its a whole different crowd. and location does play a big part yes. its a shame that we can't bridge the gap but i think it will allways be like that, due to these facts and also in regards to price, free parties and those that are cheaper seems to cheapen an event (not in a bad way) to those that would prefer to pay $30 to get into some club. You could charge a bit and risk losing punters that won't spend that money, so we do both.
Gil Videla <mvidelag@yahoo.com> wrote:
part of the difference in the crowds is not just the venue that attracts but the people themselves... Those who are a little more "hardcore" (if you will) are willing to deal with the burdens of warehouse/outdoor parties. I remember talking to Pole (what's his name)years ago and he couldn't believe that we (in So Cal) would drive 3-4hours out to the dessert for a party. Other folx just wanna get to the nearest drink and the closest popular place - a downtown club. It's all about the location - convenience factor too!!!
I'm a sportsfan but I don't go to the trendiest sports bar in town, I go to the closest one with the cheapest beer, dig?
I think this is a big factor that should be considered in addition to the typical ones like: police, promoters, drugs, etc.
<manifest_evil@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Yep goes the same most places i reckon. me and a friend started putting on shows becuase we wanted to play and that was our only way. since we have done a few parties, we play clubs, warehouses, legal and illegal, we've developed a small comunity thats growing, someone has a generator, someone else has p.a and we all pitch in to set it up. we have been shut down by police b4 but such is the nature of such shows. and like i said we do clubs and other legal venues too, make sure we can pay our artists even if it comes out of our own pockets, (unless its a free warehouse party) and when we do the clubs its still under $10. We both find it heaps of fun and real rewarding for many reasons. And talking about being shut down, we have and with a generator, pa and a mobile phone number, a few acts, you can set up anywhere. so we have been able to relocate and bring the party with us before.
I do agree the club scene is a whole different vibe than say an outdoor, warehouse party or something similar. Generally i think thats because the division you get is from those who don't mind shelling out a bit of cash and prefer their staple diets of known events and artists, as to those that aren't willing to spend that kind of cash unless its something special and will take a chance on a night becuase it sounds interesting even if they haven't heard of any of the acts.
sheesh i didn't realise how much crap i wrote :)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:16:08 -0700 (PDT)
To: idm@hyperreal.org
From: svin
Subject: Re: [idm] who killed dancing music
Message-ID: <20030813181608.40201.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com>
it took me years to figure out were to go for a
nice dancing music in NYC
so, the reality is-
the best parties are underground, with ticket
prices under 10$ or free
they are thrown by enthusiasts, who bring some
sort of community sound systems and actually some
times get permits for it!
to find out about those events you have to read
certain email subscriptions , etc
but it is happening mostly underground
and it is a shame
also i know that commercial promoters and
clubowners gladly help police to close down on
underground events
NYC commercial megaclubs have the worst possible
djs and shity music and crowd matches that fully
drugs and shit
semi-underground events attract older audience,
of more intelectual and art
Manifestevil:
http://www.freewebs.com/manifestevil/
(download sound, view images etc):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/manifestevil/
Calm Before The Storm:
http://www.freewebs.com/calmbforethestorm/
(download sound, news etc):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calmbeforethestorm/
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