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From:
Clint Anderson
To:
Juho Hietala
Cc:
IDM List
Date:
Thu, 13 Jun 2019 11:25:21 -0500
Subject:
Re: IDM's tombstone
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well let's see aphex, still around and releasing tracks... the orb, check... black dog, check.... boards of canada have been absent awhile but can hardly be called dead... [x] autechre still active [x] luke vibert [x] squarepusher (i mean, probably, damogen furies is hardly ancient) [x] b12 i mean if almost everyone on the original Artificial Intelligence compilation is still making music, can it be dead? Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 6:26 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 113 lines Yeah, it mixes well with techno and electro in general and this whole> Yeah, it mixes well with techno and electro in general and this whole > proliferation of the “sound” makes it a lot easier to toss some old DSP > bangers in. The sound is kinda timeless too by now. I was just playing > HAT’s DSP Holiday earlier today and it sounds just as fresh today as it did > in 98. > > > On 11 Jun 2019, at 19:35, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > > gotta agree with Juho. way way less "LOL WHAT EVEN IS THIS" when you play > an obscure idm track in public nowadays > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:33 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in >> general more than they used to. I get way more response these days from IDM >> sets that I would in the past. Feels like the world is catching up to the >> early 00s sometimes. >> >> >> >> On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I agree that IDM didn't happen in a vacuum. >> However, i also agree about *«glitches and retrigs, weird jittery >> max/msp techniques and all kinds of» *tools that wouldn't exist before, >> confering their unheard imprint on this music, even shaping it completely. >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm >>> I even hear bits of house music on BGM >>> >>> YMO- 'Music Plans' >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and >>>> bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people >>>> uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds >>>> of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music >>>> even >>>> there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a >>>> label to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and >>>> now have their whole own sections / genres >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just >>>>> a smidgen less conceited" >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth < >>>>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the >>>>>> previous decade myself : 1983-1993. >>>>>> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>>>>>>> > Maybe: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > 1993 - 2003 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > What do you think? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>>>>>>> > or maybe >>>>>>>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Adrien Capozzi >>>>>>>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> >