ed sez:
quoted 8 lines whether or not you agree, you are still subject to
> whether or not you agree, you are still subject to
> the law. Perhaps the
> reason you say this is because you think the chances
> of the mp3 police
> knocking on your door are extremely slim - so that
> it has become an
> optional, moral decision. But look at what happened
> in Denmark already -quoted 4 lines If you don't want
> If you don't want
> to face these kinds of possibility then maybe you
> should take an interest in
> the law before it ends up taking an interest in you.
Yes, I suppose if the industry is hit hard enough,
they'll get their money somehow, dipping directly into
the pockets of citizens if necessary. Sure would be a
good idea, across the board--track down all people who
have downloaded/uploaded a mp3, and demand copyright
royalties. Why hasn't it happened already, in a
larger country than Denmark, I wonder? One guess is
that the Danish Anti Pirat Gruppen, the group referred
to in the Register article, is an extension of the
major labels themselves. They would have a copyright
beef with those who have downloaded their
products--and how many hardcore mp3 users are
downloading this material? No, I mean HARDCORE, like
25,000 plus files. Not many, I would guess. When is
Tigerbeat6 or Morr or Blah Blah going to form a
coalition such as the APG and search out those who
have downloaded their artists, to demand a payment due
to copyright infringement?
Essentially, we're talking about two different
worlds--I'm talking about IDM-sized labels, if not IDM
style music; you're talking about WEA and the like.
This explains your doomsday-Orwellian tambor (and my
indie "fuck em all" doggedness.... :)
quoted 1 line The alternatives will always exist.
> >The alternatives will always exist.quoted 1 line Looking more unlikely every day.
> Looking more unlikely every day.
No matter how cynical you are, how hopeless you
believe the situation is, or how powerless you think
individuals are compared to the music industry,
alternatives will always exist. If we take it to its
logical end, and indeed your picture of the future is
correct, I believe more and more artists will eschew
the Big Brother reality you've illustrated, and revert
to a model that abandons copyright as we know it
altogether.
Granted, p2p is not robust, but that's part of the
deal. If it stays independent, what can you
expect?--especially if the measures you outlined are
implemented. Again, you're more concerned with majors
whereas I'm not. Clearly our concerns are different,
but I think I understand where you're coming from: it
all comes down to the black and white of the law;
downloaders are culpable and could be tracked down for
violating copyright law; tracing devices are/can be
installed in various technological components--it
seems like the principle you're getting at is that
those in charge will remain there, and will recoup
their losses, no matter how underhanded the means.
Agreed. Jump ship as soon as possible, to the largest
extent possible.
quoted 4 lines Also the
> Also the
> record industry is not (just) 5 fat guys smoking
> hand-rolled cigars and
> drinking champagne from their shoes -
Amazing, haunting image, even if inaccurate :)
Ben
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