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julia m
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Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:37:20 -0800
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Re: [idm] Downloading music
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uh uh another one of those poor me, I have to work and its not fair emails. Whatever, fuck you all! If you want to do it, you do it, if its burning inside you, your creativity, your passion, your music, and this is something you WANT to do, you do it. You work your shitty ass job and you come home and you groove the fuck out, and you do it on weekends, because that is something YOU WANT TO DO, not because its going to bring you money, or whatever the fuck measuring stick you are supposed to measure yourself with in the capitalist system. Oh whaaa, life is so tough, I don't get paid. Too fucking bad, life is not fair. And has it ever been? Point to one time where its been easy or you didn't have to work hard for something. That's life! Don't bitch about it. Everyone has to work unless they are a trust fund baby. And the more fulfilling your job is, GUESS WHAT!!! The less you get paid, and the more you have to work your ass off to get there. So you can just sit there and flip everyone off and bitch about how the world around you sucks NOW (as opposed to before? lol), or you can take advantage of the new opportunities to get your shit out, to make people groove, to make them feel your music, just like you do. I mean isn't that what its all about? Sure, its not easy. And you can talk to people who 'have made it' in the music bidness, and they can tell you that they barely scrape by for the most part, nobody is rich, BUT they FUCKING LOVE IT. That's why they do it, that's what drives them, they would not give it up for the world. If they had to dig shit for a living, they would do it, so when they come home they can get their headphones on and lose themselves in it! You have two choices: get bitter and hateful and a fucking dick to everyone... or you can see the world for what it IS, take the good with the bad, and adapt. Learn how to get out of it what you want, and make sacrifices to get there. anyway...hahaha... Saturday morning cartoons for me. ;)
quoted 108 lines From: Thomas Millar <tmillar@comcast.net>>From: Thomas Millar <tmillar@comcast.net> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Downloading music >Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:56:31 -0500 > >It's Saturday morning and I don't watch cartoons, so: > >on 1/18/03 10:00 AM, Z Moser at roachgod69@hotmail.com wrote: > > > 1. Almost everyone I know that makes or promotes music in anyway has a > > day job, and makes a net total of zero dollars on their music. They all >make > > music because they love music. > >1. Nearly all the albums I have purchased with the exception of a very few >are by people who perform and record music for a living, or attempt to. But >yeah, the people I KNOW all have day jobs - funny that! Of course none of >them would ever DREAM of making enough money from music that they could >QUIT >doing SHITTY day jobs - that would be some kind of HORRIBLE CAPITALIST >EVIL! > > > 1a. The reasons behind this are many. The current system in place to > > distribute and promote music is one of the main problems though. > >1a. Vague muttering > > > 2. In the current system people, for the most part, buy hype, not music. > >2. Then they come home, put it in the CD player, and say 'WTF? This isn't >HYPE! This is like a song I heard on the radio! GOD DAMMIT!!' > > > 3. The ability to download music does 2 things. > > > 3a. It relatively levels the playing field. The bedroom producer, or > > garage band can now reach as many people as Britney Spears. Word of >mouth > > becomes more powerful than it has ever been in the history of man. > >3a. This is a nice theory. But somehow I have failed to discover the P2P >network where this is true. And what's the advantage of reaching so many >millions of people if none of them gives enough of a shit to pay for the >privilege? > > > 3b. It ups the anty. With so many artist out there to choose from no > > longer can individuals rely on hype such as paid off reviewers, huge > > marketing schemes, and a few songs played on the radio or video station. >The > > artists have to, as they say, shit or get off the pot. > >3b. So now everyone has to choose based on -here we go- FREE REVIEWS ON >FREE >WEBSITES! WITH FREE PIRATE RADIO! etc. etc. THANK GOD THERE'S SO MANY >FUCKING DEVOTED HOBBYISTS OUT THERE SUPPORTING MY NEED TO NOT PAY FOR >ANYTHING EVER EXCEPT THE CABLE MODEM because hey dude guess what I got a >day >job I don't have time to listen to all this crap myself > > > 4. Redistribution of wealth, and toppling of corporate hierarchies. A > > negative side effect for some is this will lower the amount of money >coming > > in. This is a natural side effect of a market growing becoming wider. >People > > have more to choose from so they can more easily satisfy their personal > > taste. On the other hand many of the bedroom producers that never >expected > > to make a cent off their music can now start making a small income of >their > > music, through new systems like paypal. > >And every other month I can post a story about how my parents got sick or >the taxman made me eat it or my car broke down and beg for extra cash from >my loving listeners. I SUCK YO DICK FO A QUARTER! Dignity is a privilege of >the CAPITALIST PIG. People have more to choose from? My local mall record >store still has better selection than most P2P services, and with Amazon + >AB-CD + FE I have P2P beaten hands down. > > > 5a. Systems like paypay also cut out the middle man, allowing the artist > > to see more of the money thereby lowering the cost of music for the > > consumer. > >How does the cost get any lower than 'Free?' Does PayPal help cover the >cost >of production? Can I make you pay me without begging? Does the musician get >anything besides a nice warm fuzzy at the end of the day after going >through >all this to let you hear their music free of charge? > > > I think that is all I have to say...Oh yeah one more thing. Music is the > > one of the only mediums you are expected to buy without sampling to see >if > > you like it first. > >NEWS FLASH - RADIO BROADCASTS MUSIC TO LISTENERS >Top 40, Urban, Jazz, AC and 'College' formats planned >MTV, VH1, BET, etc: "This is just like what we do, without pictures!" > >CD STORES PLAN 'LISTENING STATIONS' >Used CDs, featured New Releases and now ANYTHING WITH A BARCODE available >for 'previewing' - NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE > >Enough of this. I hope DJ Shadow gets a laugh. (roachgod69? HA HA HAA HA >HA) > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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