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From: "Bryan Finoki" <finoki@lucasarts.com>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:11 PM
Subject: [idm] Random Inquiries
quoted 1 line How much further can electronic music be explored? are we beginning to
> How much further can electronic music be explored? are we beginning to
feel
quoted 3 lines the claustrophobic nature of the technological limitations, or is there
> the claustrophobic nature of the technological limitations, or is there
> infinite breath to express ourselves in them? in places other than
> headphones and club spaces?
there's no limit. ask mystikal.
quoted 1 line Can this music take on higher application to other groups of people
> Can this music take on higher application to other groups of people
outside
quoted 2 lines of ourselves, like the blind for example, and serve as alterior sets of
> of ourselves, like the blind for example, and serve as alterior sets of
> eyes?
i thought that's what the dogs were for.
quoted 2 lines Where do you view the current point of the music's evolution on the
>
> Where do you view the current point of the music's evolution on the
timeline
quoted 1 line within the genre?
> within the genre?
the IDM genre is probably dead. everything has taken on a new genre instead
(glitch, lowercase (sorry), click hop, whatever other stupid names people
have come up with). but, within this, i still think the overall genre is in
the baby stages. Autechre are the Sugarhill Gang of IDM. i can see a lot
of room, and a lot of things that haven't been done. there have been a lot
of groundbreaking new sounds that are unlike anything else even in the past
year. i think "do you know squarepusher?" is incredible in the fact that
it's really out there. obviously influences from other genres are apparent,
but the end result is completely new and never been done. track two,
f-trane... i can't name anything that's remotely close to it. i think
people feel that the IDM genre is out of room because everything new is
rather similar. this happens with any new genre. because IDM is so young,
a lot of people have been around since the beginning. six to eight years
ago, everything was new. there was nothing like keynell when it came out.
obvioulsy that's a lot more exciting than anything that comes out these days
because it's usually not 100% new like it used to be. unfortunately it
requires a lot more digging to find a GREAT IDM record these days because
everyone on this list has a record out now :) --- i also feel that the genre
has gotten a bit lazy and people are focusing on doing what's already been
done instead of exploring and spending time writing good melodies or
thinking things over. the whole genre lacks concept.
quoted 2 lines Does the music seem to be boiling down more and more to essentially the
>
> Does the music seem to be boiling down more and more to essentially the
same
quoted 1 line format, same sounds, same spectrum of experience?
> format, same sounds, same spectrum of experience?
it does seem that way for the reasons stated above. i also think listeners
have gotten lazy as well. they're quick to say "this sounds like x" when
they're only paying attention to the similarities. there's still a lot of
variety, you just have to listen harder.
quoted 2 lines Are we ready for new technology to enable further revolution here? ...
>
> Are we ready for new technology to enable further revolution here? ...
i'm not bored with the current technology, thanks.
quoted 2 lines What would be your dream piece of gear, your optimal interface for making
> What would be your dream piece of gear, your optimal interface for making
> music? .... the wind, the seismicity of earthquakes?
fruityloops with variations in pattern lengths
quoted 2 lines Where do we hear the limitations in this music, and where still do we see
> Where do we hear the limitations in this music, and where still do we see
> room for further exploration?
i think people are limiting themselves in writing. most artists in the
genre don't know thing one about music theory (including myself). but they
use this as an excuse to use layered pads, clicking one key at a time. if
people would pick up a book on basic chords and progression, i can really
see a great deal of benefit to that. no one cares about writing, they just
want it to sound neat.
quoted 5 lines Are we hearing aggregations of sanitized sound, merely the extent to which
>
> Are we hearing aggregations of sanitized sound, merely the extent to which
> music can be represented and manipulated through code, have we begun to
> exhaust the idea of sampling, how inevitable is the avant garde doomed for
> the commercial here?
i don't know anything about agriculture.
quoted 1 line i dont know....just wanted to start babbling, i have amuzzle and will put
> i dont know....just wanted to start babbling, i have amuzzle and will put
it
quoted 1 line on now.
> on now.
i think i'll enjoy this topic if people take some time to reply.
jon
tenandtracer
acre
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