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From:
Brandon Smith
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Date:
Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:20:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: [idm] music thievery
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P2p a tool. It is not an intrinsic good or evil. I would tell anyone that I downloaded their music. Small or large artist alike.. If they have a problem with it, I certainly can think of greater misfortunes. I used to run into Marumari on Napster [yes, the real Marumari, not a screen name...I actually arranged to buy a record off of him personally - I suppose he had some extra copies at his house, on Napster a while back] I believe I met him on soulseek as well once or twice, but I know I met one of the guys from Stars as Eyes. He could have been putting me on, but who would lie about *that* group. Also, I would gladly share their [then months unreleased, and entirely unavailable] new ep with me. I know these guys aren't exactly Boards of Canada, but idm isn't exactly pop music to begin with, either. I read a post by Hrvatski, on this list I believe, where he basically said please feel free to share this music so long as 1) you don't claim it as your own and 2) do not sell it to profit beyond the cost of the media you are using to transport the music. I suppose he sees this as publicity. I hate to put words into anybody's mouth, so vat, if I'm mistaken - 1001 apologies. As a completely unsigned and unheard artist, I obviously would not only not care, but be glad if I come across my tracks on soulseek. Virtually everyone was once unheard, and would probably have the same high opinion of finding their music shared. This is publicity. Of course, shard music is not controlled publicity, but would certainly be welcome none the less by most unsigned artists. When this artist takes off unfortunately their opinion over the sharing of their music may shift, but again this happens to be a factor that they never did have control over to begin with; it is just a matter of how appealing it may seem at various stages. Would it be hypocritical to enjoy the benefits of such vast exposure until it hurts your bottom line? Now Hrvatski is well established, but I suppose he feels he could use more publicity. At least he did a few months ago when I read his post. There are clear conflicts when it comes to the accessibility of music, both released and unreleased, and the deregulated nature of p2p is, in essence, why artists' exposure has increased exponentially over the past few years. This would benefit, at the very lease, the factor of name recognition. I doubt Mike P. is surfing the web looking for the latest names of 'bedroom bandits', but I also read somewhere that he first heard of bit meddler through similar channels. Of course it was the traditional 'demo' that resulted in the release of his first 7", I'm quite certain. Oh, and as for the type of person who would assume that I wouldn't buy their music if I thought it was worth it after I downloaded it - especially in the case of me taking the time to *tell* them in person that I enjoyed - I wouldn't give a shit what they might think of me to begin with. Like it or not people, about 90% of my ordered and bought music [hi Geoff.] comes as a direct result of my downloading it to begin with. ov
quoted 15 lines I'm sure you're correct, but stop and think about it> > I'm sure you're correct, but stop and think about it > for a second...you'd > have to be pretty clueless to walk up to someone and > TELL them you > downloaded their record for free, right? It seems to > me that a person who > can't think THAT far past their own nose probably > isn't going to beat a trail out to support what they > like. > > jeff > > >
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