Come on y'all
On Oct 21, 2014 8:08 PM, "Juho Hietala" <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 22 Oct 2014, at 01:52, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote:
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> You're going to have to have another go at stating your point, because
> frankly that whole essay is an utter shit-show. Start with that first
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> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> honestly, i dunno why you acknowledging your behaviour should be a reason
>> to not question it. that just does not make sense.
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>> i think it’s pretty clear you don’t have the whole picture here and it
>> did make me angry that you responded by ridiculing the person that called
>> you out on it - and the fact that you present your behaviour as something
>> everyone should just accept because you acknowledge it.
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>> the fact that i’m being blatantly blunt is just an extension of my
>> frustration on your acknowledged ‘effect’, and how it seems to be the same
>> with every person that sticks with private torrent sites even when there’s
>> no actual fan based need for most of them to exist these days. we, the
>> artists, NEED those pennies as the democratisation of music has driven
>> everyone’s overall sales down. If you actually look at the numbers instead
>> of blindly quoting them, you’ll see that the tail we’re all in here is
>> much, much… MUCH longer than ever.
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>> On 22 Oct 2014, at 01:37, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
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>> Then let me be very clear what I am saying: I am not justifying my
>> torrenting, but merely stating the effect of my torrenting. That's
>> essentially a rehash of my first reply to this damn thread.
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>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> i’m not claiming any moral high ground. i’m saying that argument is
>>> illogical, ie. fucking moronic. that’s what i’ve been saying all the time,
>>> and why i’m disgusted that you feel like you can make decisions on artists’
>>> sources of income.
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>>> On 22 Oct 2014, at 01:32, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>> No that's all fine and good Juho. You can't claim the moral high ground
>>> as an individual however, which you very blatantly have been doing for the
>>> past several replies.
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>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> yeah uh I dunno why it’s an issue that I’ve used a torrent site in the
>>>> past when the point I was pretty clearly making is that if someone thinks
>>>> torrenting is superior than giving an artist a few pennies, that someone is
>>>> a fucking idiot. i have never ever said that. i probably know more than
>>>> connor or jon how today all the fucking pennies matter.
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>>>> On 22 Oct 2014, at 00:28, Sham Beam <sham.beam@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> > Hasn't everyone had this conversation before? Everyone pirates music.
>>>> That doesn't make it any less cool and disrespectful towards the artists we
>>>> pirate. Perhaps the music industry will evolve to a point where this isn't
>>>> such an issue in the future.
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>>>> > On 10/22/2014 10:18 AM, Juho Hietala wrote:
>>>> >> yep, this was years ago before there was spotify or other viable
>>>> means to listen to stuff. i’m not denying it. but did you also notice i’ve
>>>> uploaded several of my own albums to these sites?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> when you’re done lolling you can still consider the point i made to
>>>> you a few emails ago.
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>>>> >> On 22 Oct 2014, at 01:15, Jon Sands <fohdeesha@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> >>> LOLLLLL *breathes deeply* LOL
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>>>> >>> Remember how I was saying in my first post, the people yelling the
>>>> loudest about how awful piracy is and how it should NEVER be done are
>>>> usually the ones doing it to their own benefit? And how Juho called more
>>>> than a few people "disgusting" for admitting to downloading a couple albums?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Well, here's a screenshot of some of the copyrighted albums Juho
>>>> has torrented. I count around 115 total, and that's before he got banned.
>>>> Nice job! - http://i.imgur.com/rYQAqaf.png
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>>>> >>> So, Juho, anything else you'd like to be hilariously hypocritical
>>>> about? Or is this one of those things that's only OK when you do it, but
>>>> awful when we do?
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>>>> >>> On 10/21/2014 7:08 PM, Juho Hietala wrote:
>>>> >>>> well, to be honest, i think the joke’s on you here..
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