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From:
Otomi ;\)
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Otomi ;\) , Christopher Miller , Infintile I Love I Hate Fuck You No Fuck You Boards Of Canada Mailing-List
Date:
Thu, 14 Mar 2002 01:40:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
Re: [idm] Schematic vs. Infiltrate
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drunk post, do not reply --- "Otomi ;)" <idmgirldj@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 149 lines I love it!> I love it! > such a small community should be supporting each > other, perhaps finding a bigger venue for both to > co-exist, I'm going to be there for either one, i > just > find it sadly typical. Hopefully you will decide to > expand in a harmonius collective sans the politics > that > limit you. > > much love, > > otomi/(you know who) > > > --- Christopher Miller <evil@cirex.net> wrote: > > This was forwarded to me by Steven Castro (founder > > of Infiltrate). Please > > don't send replies to me as I'm not associated > with > > either camp: > > > > ---------- > > The anti-conference......... > > > > Schematic was invited to Infiltrate, to play with > > Adult. on Friday but > > turned it down because the venue was too hot and > > didn't have a bathroom > > upstairs plus they didn't like the sound system at > > Churchill's (where the > > main Infiltrate event is held). Turns out the real > > reason was they finally > > admitted was they their own proper Winter Music > > Conference event in the > > trendy South Beach area so they can be near all > the > > industry action, hence > > the name Laptops & Martinis. They created their > > whole line-up and went to > > look for a venue on the beach but either couldn't > > find anything or what they > > couldn't find a suitable place. So not having a > > venue and they came back to > > infiltrate asking to be part of it but with their > > own idea of transplanting > > their line-up as is into the main room at > > Churchill's (the same place with > > the supposed bad sound system). The problem was > that > > the night was already > > structured weeks prior to be a techno/electro > > evening in the main room as > > well as the middle bar, and the IDM act would be > in > > the back area. They > > didn't want to split their line-up to conform with > > what was already planned > > so they were told that it would be better if they > > continued to look for > > their own seperate venue, something they were > > originally going to do anyway. > > > > The problem here is they are not more special than > > anyone else at > > Infiltrate, every artist and dj is seen as equal, > no > > matter local or > > foreign, every year a group of people work > together > > for a common goal and > > that is to bring offer a real alternative to the > WMC > > not be part of it, > > hence the name Infiltrate. Also all these dealings > > with Schematic and > > Infiltrate were dealt with through a third person > > because Schematic refused > > to confront the founders of Infiltrate directly. > > Infiltrate has a clear > > concept and goal not a place for label showcases > and > > promotions, we have no > > time for egos, pride, selfishness and arrogance > > (putting an event like this > > takes alot of time and team players), especially > > from Schematic which has > > been one of the labels aound for the longest in > > Miami and should be setting > > the example. > > > > Now they chose to do their party on the same night > > as ours, they are more > > than welcome to do so, there is no competition or > > bad feelings and we wish > > them well. We've done this event with and without > > them for the last 4 years > > and next year will be a new and maybe we'll be > > working together again. This > > message is to answers questions raised by > supporters > > and to squash any > > bullshit before it starts. Both parties on Sunday > > are very low in price, so > > ther is no reason to not support both events. > There > > is no proof of entry at > > Infiltrate at any of our shows. We will post the > > line-up and the schedule at > > the event and on our website a day or so before > the > > event (and hopefully > > they will too) so you can plan ahead. Bottomline > is > > Miami is the spot to be > > on that weekend. > > > > http://www.infiltrate.info > > > > > > thanks to every one on this list that has ever > > supported any of the Miami > > labels or events, > > Steven Castro (founder of Infiltrate) > > > > Support truth and self-respect will follow. > > > > infiltrate@pl3x.com > > ps199@bellsouth.net > > > > http://www.pl3x.com > > http://www.betabodega.com > > http://www.counterflowrecordings.com > > http://www.m3rck.net > > http://www.etihad.com > > http://www.mustdelicious.com > > http://www.algocentral.com > > http://www.dopamine.cc > > http://www.schematic.net > > http://www.counterpointgarments.com > > http://www.ersatzaudio.com > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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