Okay, this is one of the best honest defenses I have
heard on this list for wanting to keep the best in the
"personal zone." Well done! & Thanks!
--- Jonathan Hierholzer <ilovekid606@hotmail.com>
wrote:
quoted 178 lines Thanks to everyone for their replies!!! I'll try
> Thanks to everyone for their replies!!! I'll try
> to answer everything.
> Good to see that you and some others had similar
> experiences. I don't
> think I'll ever like it quite as much as MHTRTC but
> it's still growing on
> me! As far as nostalgia goes, that's one of the
> primary draws that BoC has
> on me. That, the complexity, the beauty, etc. I've
> noticed some people
> mentioning 'Julie and Candy' and 'the devil is in
> the details'. the former
> is quite good, but I especially like the latter.
> it's so eerie and
> hallucinatory.. it reminds me of level 3, the forest
> on MickeyMousecapade
> for the old Nintendo, if anyone recalls.. it
> doesn't have anything in
> common, just reminds me of that. I also agree that
> as a whole, it's just as
> emotional as the debut, but in a more anxious and
> sinister way.. very
> interesting juxtaposition. My favorite song so far,
> and a perfect example
> of what i was just talking about it 'sunshine
> recorder', track 6. It's so
> gorgeous that it nearly brings me to tears, but it
> also makes me uneasy and
> anxious. The eerie basslines, the reverbrant notes,
> and the little kid
> saying 'it's a beautiful place'.. I don't know it
> just hits me in some
> special way.
> I, like you, also came into the album totally
> cold.. I'd never heard any
> of it, cept the sample on the BoC website. So it
> was an interesting first
> listen. :-)
>
> I also wanted to respond to derek and Z's
> comments on my sophomoric
> comment on the high sales ranking and idm elitism.
> Here's the best answer I
> can come up with:
> I love IDM, pure and simple. But for me, and
> some of my friends with
> their own indiepopsnob sorta attitudes, it goes
> beyond the music itself and
> starts to become a sort of lifestyle. It sounds
> terrible.. but I like to
> think that since I discovered BoC on my own (as well
> as Aphex, Ae, etc)and
> started to become enveloped in their wonderful
> psychadelic but intelligent
> and nostalgic world, that I have some special
> connection to it. You know..
> us IDM types 'get it'. We like to think that none
> of our classmates,
> teachers, etc 'get it', and if by chance they
> 'liked' it, it would be on
> some superficial level. As far as this specific
> example is concerned, I
> suppose that I don't want the sales rankings to go
> up because I picture a
> bunch of little junior high girls going and buying
> geogaddi because their
> indiesnob boyfriend played it for them and they
> thought 'the sounds were
> cool, kinda like that 'techno' stuff they hear by BT
> on the radio.' Either
> that or the old fogies who like the more
> easylistening type tracks and buy
> it thinking it's more adult alternative to listen to
> on an airplane.. like
> late era tangerine dream. It may be a little
> selfish.. but it's also the
> fact that (as bad as it sounds, I'm really not
> trying to be mean) I don't
> want Boards of canada's hard work to be overexposed
> to people who aren't
> going to appreciate it for all that it is. Like
> throwing pearls before
> swine, or whatever the expression is. (no, I'm not
> saying the others are
> swine, i'm simply using the example). As far as
> everyone listening to BoC,
> and them getting repaid for their hard work, BoC
> themselves once said in an
> interview that the reason they made their first
> releases in such a limited
> quantity is because they didn't care who got them as
> long as their family
> and friends heard it.
> So i guess in conclusion, yes..it's partially
> selfish motives.. the need
> to be special and seen as elitist.. but also because
> I genuinely don't want
> them to be popularized and misinterpreted on a large
> level. I think it was
> an xlr8r review that said something along the lines
> that BoC's sound is so
> personal that you don't want to share it with
> anybody. i think, as far as
> BoC goes, that this is the heart of the matter.
> hope that helped, and I'd
> love to discuss it further if you want. thanks for
> listening!
>
> Jonathan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Murphy" <kevin@eorbit.net>
> To: "Jonathan Hierholzer" <ilovekid606@hotmail.com>
> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [idm] Happy Geogaddi Day!
>
>
> > On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 00:41, Jonathan Hierholzer
> wrote:
> > > I got my copy of Geogaddi in the mail today and
> wanted to know
> > > everyone's opinions (initial, of course). Right
> off the bat, I was
> > > personally underwhelmed, but the second time
> through hit me as
> > > brilliant.. I can't make up my mind yet.. it's
> gonna take me quite a
> > > while probably.
> >
> > My experience was very similar. Much like the
> first time I listened to
> > "Music Has A Right...", the first time through I
> kind of let it wash
> > over me, and it didn't make a very strong
> impression. Then I put the
> > headphones on and gave it a good listen.
> >
> > To paraphrase Beetlejuice, I've had it on repeat
> for about five hours
> > now AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTIN' BETTER EVERY SINGLE
> TIME I HEAR IT!
> >
> > A few more first impressions:
> >
> > * A lot of the childish/nostalgic noises
> that gave "Music Has.."
> > its sense of naivite seem to be twisted
> into something more
> > anxious...more like the ghosts of
> children than the sounds of
> > a schoolyard.
> > * Is the manipulated vocal of the
> hypnotherapist on "The Devil
> > Is In The Details" a tweak at every
> music reviewer who
> > referred to BOC as "hypnotic", or is it
> just my overactive
> > imagination?
> > * "Julie and Candy" is *pretty*. :)
> > * I'm really glad I didn't listen to
> bootlegs before I got the
> > CD...It was kind of a letdown when I got
> the last Plaid album
> > and realized that I'd already heard 90%
> of the tracks as mp3
> > boots. Hooray for delayed gratification.
> > * "Dandelion" and "Energy Warning" bug me
> a bit insofar as the
> > vocal samples are really obvious and the
> tracks themselves
> > don't really go anywhere. But a minor
> nit overall.
> > * Has anyone figured out what the heck the
> vocorded voice on
> > "1969" is singing (not the "1969 in the
> sunshine" portion...)?
> >
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