Yeah I can see what you are saying. What you said about he DJ getting much
credit... I think that has to do with how much work a DJ puts into a set,
how cleverly one can implement the tracks and if of course if the DJ is
doing his own form of instrumentation (scratching, live pa of their own
tracks..etc). I respect the DJ's who are throwing down the good tracks and
saying "here's some great music that i'm presenting to you in a rational
order" But a lot of times the orders arent rational and they mix together
two songs that could have been easily beatmatched to preserve continuity.
Especially if you are a warp dj. I was on groovetech and saw a live video
stream of a warp dj and I expected somewhat clever set and it wasnt. I just
feel, if the song can be beatmatched why not? Be as involved in the mix as
you can. Anyways, I will compile a list of anyone that wants to check out
my mix. I have one, and I am currently working on my second. The first is
a blend of abstract electro, new school breaks, then going into more of a
trip hop\downtempo thing. The next one will be a midtempo breaks blend of
more abstract electro, nuskool breaks and IDMish material. I have an FTP
site available to those with a fast connection. Email me for details. Also
check out this band I scratch with live. www.mp3.com/~triage . They are a
group of musicians working with multimple digital \analog pieces, guitar,
bass, digeridoo, turntables etc. Many of the shows we play are highly
improvised...live record shows will be avail soon. Keep and eye out for
them! We are all based out of Orlando FL. Much love to the DJs and the
fantastic artists they promote.
hExx
----- Original Message -----
From: "EggyToast" <youn0394@umn.edu>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [idm] IDM DJs
quoted 2 lines At 02:25 PM 8/11/2001 -0700, you wrote:> At 02:25 PM 8/11/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >Why is it that all IDM djs seem to have no character, so boring. And
they
quoted 1 line might as well mix without headphones because the fashion in which they> >might as well mix without headphones because the fashion in which they
mix
quoted 17 lines doesnt make sense anyways. I just don't see why a dj spinning> >doesnt make sense anyways. I just don't see why a dj spinning
> >"intelligent dance music" can't be intelligent about what he or she
> >mixing. Come on, put some effort and creativity to your mixes!! I've
> >heard a lot of mixes off of warp and at shows and they're all just so
> >disappointing. I mean yeah they spin great tracks, but whats the point
> >of mixing it when you can just load up a playlist in Winamp?? Mira Calix
> >is a perfect example. Why do all these dj's get a cut on warp and all
> >these labels if they just don't show any craftsmanship in their *ahem*
> >art. I'm not trying to rag on them, but more as a harsh constructive
> >criticism.
>
>
> I don't know if this is just a clever marketing proposal disguised as a
> music critique, but I'll bite.
>
> I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that a lot of "IDM" isn't very
> mixable. Add that to the idea that some people are enamored with the
music
quoted 12 lines just by itself, and I could totally see how someone would think "i'll just> just by itself, and I could totally see how someone would think "i'll just
> drop this killer track, and everyone will love it." Granted, it's nice to
> hear some good music, but then I don't really think the DJ should get much
> credit. They're still DJ's, as much as the people on the radio are DJ's,
> though.
>
> As far as "warp dj's" go, I don't really see the point in doing live mixes
> and restricting yourself to one *label*. The blech2 compilation is pretty
> good, with a few slow spots, but for live shows?
>
> In my opinion, a "Good DJ" will play what is necessary to fit the mood or
> style, at any point in the mix. Kid Koala is a great example. Rob Hall
is
quoted 12 lines not. Haswell is.. uhh.. in the middle somewhere.> not. Haswell is.. uhh.. in the middle somewhere.
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