Yeah, I have to agree on this point. In the SF Bay area, the whole IDM thing
came directly from parties in the early 90's. It's kind of coming full
circle again, at least with the more IDM-ish parties, but it's very true the
rave scene and IDM scene are very separate.
The IDM scene here is pretty mixed with the indie rock people, which I
personally think is a good thing. I'm kind of over the whole "rave" thing
anyway.
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quoted 47 lines From: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
>From: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [idm] idm'er, the rare breed? or not?
>Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:38:55 -0500
>
>[EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>]
> > idm started as an armchair genre. That's why there's so much growing
>pains
> > about playing live now :D
>
>I disagree, and this is a misconception that kind of gets to me... I
>think IDM turned into an armchair genre, and I think that's why I don't
>like it anymore.
>
>The early IDM was all dance-oriented and played at Raves. Aphex was
>playin raves in the US in 93 and Autechre was in like 95 or so...
>
>I don't know how many people on this list have been raving for a long
>time, but ambient rooms were common place and people danced to things
>like Aphex, the Orb, Orbital, etc.
>
>The second wave of IDM took this and completely removed it from rave
>culture and started to somehow think that they were above rave culture
>in some way. The third wave is kind of refreshing in that they're
>knocking down the stuffiness, but they're still anti-rave for some
>reason. Lesser even admitted in an interview that he's never been to an
>interview (the article is on his site).
>
>This somewhat ties in with what somebody said earlier about liking
>Autechre but not liking Miami Bass... In the same way it annoys me when
>people talk about stuff like Squarepusher or Aphex and won't pay any
>respect to jungle, techno, house or even most jazz fusion.
>
>It really annoys me that IDM is almost no longer welcome at raves. I've
>only gotten to play a few because they're so divorced, but it's
>seriously great when it works out.
>
>--
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