Oig! i'm really not in the mood for all this, sorry if i implied so.
quoted 10 lines So, if you're going to say music is best when it comes from its
>So, if you're going to say music is best when it comes from its
>original culture/region, you're going to have to extend that to
>include temporal boundaries as well. I mean, say I decide to record
>some classical piano, some Mozart. Do I have to live like Mozart did
>and get into his non-existant pre-modern European culture? I would
>say no. Music is not devoid of cultural attachments, but it is not a
>culture itself. Hip-hop, as I understand it, is a musical style that
>came out of and is largely still very attached to certain cultures in
>America. It was/is part of a cultural movement. But the
>culture/movement does not equal hip-hop.
fair enough.
quoted 9 lines Certainly, the culture or region from which a style comes originally
>Certainly, the culture or region from which a style comes originally
>is where that particular style has its roots, and the style is most
>important/meaningful to the people of that area/culture. However, if
>everyone just stuck to the music of their own area/culture, as it
>would seem you are suggesting, then there would never be any musical
>cross-pollenation or evolution. Classical musicians and artists of
>the 19th century would never have allowed themselves to have anything
>to do with asian influences. Rock'n'roll wouldn't exist. Hip-hop
>itself would not exist.
uh-huh. ::yawn::
quoted 2 lines Face it man, you're trying to tell people to not be inventive or
>Face it man, you're trying to tell people to not be inventive or
>creative, to stick to what others around them are doing.
No. No i'm not. Please, everyone, don't let this statement or a similar
one be the thing that suedes you away from my consideration. The comparison
you made with classical music is invalid because classical music no longer
culturally saturated. The things that made made it what it was are gone.
So now the music is just there, nostalgic, with no coating. Hip-hop is
wholly different. Hip-hop is culturally dependent and relevant. IDM is not
cuz it's not clearly defined yet. You can't ignore your region and still be
a powerful force in the direction hip-hop takes, because that's not how
hip-hop works. I encourage everyone who makes music to be inventive and
creative, but you should also recognize your limitations. take from all
this what you will, there is some relevancy in my words. it's not something
i'm totally attached to, it's not something anyone should be attached to.
like i said (3rd, 4th time now?), it's just something to think about. so i
don't feel like talking about it anymore. it's run it's course.
-char
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