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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:48:17 +1300
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
From: "unlyrn" <xen@i4free.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [idm] Mozart in league with RIAA
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quoted 1 line I cant believe you've said that... You're actually
> I cant believe you've said that... You're actually
saying that without striving for some monetary reward
from music, music can not be pushed enough to be good.
I guess with posts talking about Mozart's cool
$400,000 cheques and with the extremely intense
pressure we are under thanks to western (economy)
society, that remark can actually be supported...
Regarding the Mozart thing... I think you'll find
virtually none of the 'popular' musicians of his time
made any money whatsoever, just as they do not
today... there was a distinct upper class with
enormous disposable income paying him (and others)
directly for specific pieces... can anyone think of
any modern equivalents to this situation? How much do
composers get for film score work for example?
To condense this slightly vague rant : instead of
looking at ways to change the payment scheme, are
there other ways beyond the 'releasing albums to the
consumer' model for musicians to make money?
quoted 1 line
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re: the above - sure - it's called licensing. maybe
it's just b/c i live in l.a. and work in the industry,
but it seems like there's a ridiculous amount of cash
out there in tv/movies/commercial licensing of tracks
if you can tap into it. consider the ford focus
commercial that's out now with juan atkins' "no ufos"
track backing it. he made that song almost (if not
more than?) ten years ago, and they picked it up for a
thirty second spot for a rumored six figures. pretty
insane, how many 12"s would juan have to sell to
recoup that kind of cash? and that's only the tip of
the iceberg - turn on the tv now and you'll hear ads
being backed by tosca, amon tobin, groove armada,
moby, boc and more. granted you're gonna make more if
you've got a name like basement jaxx or moby than some
suffering bedroom producer, but it's still way more
than you could ever make on album sales. a lot of
people bitch and moan about the ethics of it and
accuse the artist of selling out, but where else can
you score six figures in thirty seconds that allows
you to make completely uncompromising non-commercial
(no pun intended) music for the next three or four
years?
that's about the closest equivalent i can think of in
today's world, at least...
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Brock Phillips
Motormouthmedia
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