I do agree with this post 100%. Thanx for stating my point of view on this
anti-laerm thread. facism is bad but every coin has two sides.... let's stop
this thread.
idm content:
Isol "All the pretty things" proved to be absolutely not I had expected... I
mean I like it nevertheless very much but I thought it to be like melody idm
or something but it is some form of bass influenced noise ambient IMHO.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jon anderson [mailto:pyrrhonist2@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:57 AM
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [idm] "simply a moron?"
>
>
> I haven't followed this thread too well, so i don't
> know what the original point was. But in the last few
> postings, it seems that laerm has made a valid point
> that has been missed.
>
> The point is, ironically, supported by analogies made
> by the detractors: dog turds ARE (or at least, some
> might feel are) a beautiful shade of olive-brown, and
> jumping out of a plane without a parachute CAN be
> thrilling - despite the bad consequences.
>
> Everyone seems to agree that jumping out of planes,
> dog turds, and fascism suck. Nobody said fascism was
> good. And the specific qualities laerm pointed out
> might unfortunately be bad examples. maybe a better
> example is this: fascism has inspired alot of people
> to NOT be fascist. That's a good thing isn't it? Or
> would it be better if we didn't learn from our
> mistakes?
>
> The general point is simply that all things, no matter
> how simplistic and bad they appear to be, are
> complexes of qualities, and not every single minute
> quality or long term effect of a thing will turn out
> to be a bad one.
>
> This argument says nothing about the value of fascism,
> or about the relative number of good vs bad qualities
> it might have. What people are attacking is in fact a
> strawman version of this argument. (e.g., the argument
> that fascism itself is "good" or in some way justified
> by some good effect it tends to have.)
>
> hopefully this issue was raised in connection with
> some idm related topic, otherwise sorry for continuing
> the totally irrelevant postings.
>
> j
>
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