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Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:52:07 -0800 (PST)
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Re: [idm] IDM is not downtempo (a historical analysis)
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What exactly makes idm intelligent or more intelligent then other forms of music? --- XeNoFoO@aol.com wrote:
quoted 71 lines In a message dated 12/19/00 3:56:33 AM Central> In a message dated 12/19/00 3:56:33 AM Central > Standard Time, > idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org writes: > > > so we're back to one of the commonest threads on > the list : > > dissatisfaction with the term 'idm'. if i may > summarize its famous > > history : it began to describe a few brits > (notably afx--the original > > subject of this list) who would make > thumpy-thumpy dance music that > > didn't have a comforting house feel, but felt a > bit manic, twitchy, > > yet very melodic. when these artists (e.g. warp > crew) simultaneously > > began exploring the deconstruction of jungle > music with the same > > weird vibe, the term 'idm' followed them, because > there weren't a lot > > of people doing this sort of thing to dance > music, so very different > > sounds were cast into the same genre. then it > really becomes a mess. > > a new wave of artists doing very simple, > happy-bouncy synthesizer > > music (e.g. solvent, plone) are decidedly 'idm' > from the get-go, even > > though this sort of music has been around for > decades. squarepusher > > starts doing jazzy stuff ; because of his name, > THAT becomes idm. > > minimal/ambient house emerges in germany, along > with noise/unmusical > > stuff (e.g. oval) and these progressively become > assimilated into idm > > culture. if we may say that common threads on > the list make a type > > of music into idm, then it also encompasses > certain ambient artists > > (e.g. vladislav delay), some techno, and some > more experimental > > stuff. now, the very loose application of the > term 'idm' makes for a > > very diverse idm community (just watch the stupid > debates of opinion > > for a sample) ; it effectively unites a number of > small off-beat > > genres into one, over-arching 'we don't like > normal stuff' sort of > > community. so the moral of the story is, just > keep saying 'idm', and > > don't tell people what it stands for (a > stalinesque act of erasing > > its history would be in order) ; the fact is, > *we've got a name for > > it*, it's too late to invent a new one and > re-engineer our community, > > but just recognize what a diversity of > denotations the word carries. > > (beware the connotations as well--people will > probably think you're a > > fancy, show-offy idm-l snob!) > > > > .af. > > sweeeet post, someone should save this and just > repost it whenever a "i hate > the name idm" thread pops up. > >
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