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From:
Jeff Waye
To:
IDM
Date:
Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:02:07 -0500
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Re: [idm] if was not said, i will
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<B616472D.15D1%ninjeff@generation.net>
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<B615DEF3.10E2%roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu>
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homework time.... Astralwerks and Caroline are in the same building and owned by the same people but their not the same company. One is a label, one a distributor simple as that. Warp going through Caroline is in no way the same thing as Warp via Astralwerks. Warp will maintain all their own decisions as to what they put out, what sales expectations they have for it, how much they want to spend. Caroline simply put records in the stores, it's up to the label and artist to sell them at that point. We (Ninja Tune) are through Caroline (for 4 years now) and when was the last time you heard of us having anything to do with Astralwerks. As for Photek and U-Ziq...if you don't like their new records blame them not Astralwerks. Jeff on 10/20/00 1:37 PM, Lee Azzarello at roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu wrote:
quoted 79 lines Preach on preacher! Sounds good. Do you have an email contact so we might> Preach on preacher! Sounds good. Do you have an email contact so we might > send a petition to Warp? I'm game...Fatboyshit and saturn commercials be > gone. > > -lee > > on 10/20/00 10:43 AM, Benjamin McDonald at warpfan@hotmail.com wrote: > >> okay, >> I don't think this has been addressed/or maybe it has: >> Is it me, or is Astralwerks killing the crap out of good artists? Last year, >> Paradinas released the biggest let down album of the year, this year, the >> prize goes to Photek. Is it just plain coincident that Astralwerks (skint) >> are the pushers of these two flops? >> After 'Lunatic Harness' i was all pins and needles to hear the follow-up >> from Mu-ziq, but, god damnit, i would rather have no more Mu-albums than >> hear that piece of commercial crap(the "d&b in idm" discussion comes in >> here). I love GanggStarr as much as the next white boy, but come on, pick a >> little less know clip to loop (yall need to cut that greedy ass......)(this >> could be next discussion WORST sample ever). >> Then, after watching and waiting for, -what has it been, 2 years?-photek >> decides to release a new album. "RAD!" people say, another twisted, sick >> beat album. Not really IDM, but we expect awesome stuff anyway because of >> the intelligent nature of his style of D&B. So, was i the only one let down >> when i went to the record shop to hear this new gem? the look of horror on >> my face when i heard (vomit-wince) house style vocals cracked up the entire >> store, who had gone through the same puke inducing realization that this >> once viable and creative artist had pulled a 'Royal Astronomy', with dreams >> of sound clips in Saturn commercials and soundtrack slots on NewLine horror >> flicks no doubt the cause of this Oakenfold ready crapper of a album. I BET >> MY LEFT BALL THAT ONE OF THESE TRACKS WILL BE ON A GLOBAL UNDERGROUND >> RELEASE SOMEDAY! >> my conclusion is this: >> ASTRALWERKS IS THE ROOT OF ALL COMMERCIAL EVIL IN AMERICAN ELECTRONIC MUSIC! >> Since the commercial success of Fatboyshit, with his ever present, annoying, >> bullshit of bubblegum beats and production, the company demands nothing more >> than "a hot seller". "no shit", you may be saying to yourself,"we knew about >> this all along. why should i care now?" >> this is why: >> Warp, who i am obviously a massive fan of, recently signed a contract to >> have their releases put out in America (yeaaaaaa!!) by caroline records >> (booooooo,hisss!!). Caroline=Astralwerks. >> This may be extreme, but i say we start a campaign to get warp out of this >> devil deal. not saying that warp artists will lose control over direction >> and personal style, but when Caroline cant move platinum numbers of, lets >> say Jamie Lidell _Muddlin' Gear_, what will they say to warp??? "you know, >> it doesn't sell because its not ACCESSIBLE enough" or "its TOO DARK for >> commercial success". The music label business is a big mofo, breach of >> contract sits well to U.S. courts. Caroline can claim that Warp is not >> filling its side of the deal by not providing a product that can sell. Ugly, >> it will turn. >> So, BE WARNED (hahaha_)!! >> If my language is harsh and abrasive, sorry, its a bitch of a time to live >> in (haha_), get your head out of your stuffy ass. >> be pissed about the manhandling of the arts in america, its the only way to >> enact a change. >> out >> benine >> "my escalator stops for no one" >> unread,unedited,rantedandsent >> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. >> >> Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >> http://profiles.msn.com. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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