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Petter
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Tue, 26 Sep 2000 06:05:01 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: [idm] urb and integrity, yech..
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Pretty funny/weird of this Alex Reynolds fellow to respond to the URB posting with more name calling and elitist remarks. --- Alex Reynolds <reynolda@sas.upenn.edu> wrote:
quoted 76 lines Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:25:48 EDT> >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:25:48 EDT > >From: Djslacker227@aol.com > > > >Forget pop we're famous: > > > >Darren Keast writes in an article about kid 606 > pissing off "the snobby > >electronic music intelligentsia" in the latest > issue of URB > > > >"people on the idm e-mail list ridicule him... > deviant listeners like those > >in the bitchy intelligent dance music > scene...haters on the idm list whine > >that he gets too much attention outside their > exclusive ranks" > > > >URB is definitely a pop culture magazine, and I > think that it confirms my > >conjecture that the idm list and experimental > techno have an elitist image, > >especially thanks to that whole kid 606/lexaunculpt > string that pretty much > >killed any rep or integrity that the list had at > all. > > let's be honest: URB is the last place anyone would > go to for > reputation and integrity. while we breathe rarer, > purer air up here > in the mountains of idm-l, at least we can justify > what we like. we > can put a name on it and call it Good. and the > list's disagreements > over what is good music is mostly both entertaining > and intelligent. > > at the risk of being blunt, the whole dsp/noise > scene with kid606 as > its poster child is an overrated fad, fed on the > pseudo-punk image of > the artists and not much more. only white > college-age kids can make > hip-hop unlistenable and get pats on the back from > pop culture rags. it > may be sound or noise, but it's not music any more > than my aging > refrigerator condensor's decaying, chaotic whine at > three in the > morning is music. > > i'll believe that kid606 and similarly styled > musicians are > legitimate artists when you start hearing crunching, > arrhythmic dsp > crap in the next britney spears or madonna album. it > would mean > either people are dumb as paint and they'll buy > anything mtv tells > them to, or there really is something aesthetic that > this technique > (and that's all it is) adds to a piece of music. > > until then, i don't buy the hype. and i sure as hell > won't look to > URB for what i should consider "legitmate" music and > what i should > not. (and as to whether idm-l has any "rep" or > "integrity" or > "credibility" any more is another discussion > entirely, but is URB > really the place to start looking for an answer?) > > -a. > >
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