At 12:31 PM 9/14/2000 -0700, Ron Jeremy wrote:
quoted 7 lines Watching musicians grimace and lean into the microphone and spin
>>Watching musicians grimace and lean into the microphone and spin
>>in >circles while playing guitars isn't even remotely entertaining to me.
>
>Are you saying you have never seen a band EVER that has been interesting
>live? I have seen plenty that have either been great to watch or very
>entertaining visually. I can wholeheartedly say I would take a Pink Floyd
>concert over a mouse session anyday.
Okay, so I engaged in a bit of hyperbole. Yeah, I've seen bands
that were engaging to see (certainly moreso than watching a spacebar get
tapped every ten minutes). But that's the minority of bands, and usually
what I see is the cheesy jumping up and down by the numbers hair swinging
type stuff. It just isn't that amusing to me anymore. A band who is really
tight and really into the music is contagious, to be sure, but that's just
such the minority of bands I see.
I wasn't trying to talk smack about bands as much as point out
that, for me anyway, watching a couple guys with tousled hair and sweaters
gazing at their shoes as they play is about as boring as watching mouse
clicking. IDM shows aren't any new frontier in boringness as far as I'm
concerned.
quoted 3 lines For one thing the sound & visuals tends to be better. The age group isn't
>For one thing the sound & visuals tends to be better. The age group isn't
>particularly appealing. Neither is the tendency for it to be more about
>drugs, then the music. But you can't have everything.
Yeah. It was wishful thinking. A larger group of people and a more
interactive space, if it could be less of a group massage set to trance
music, would be my ideal.
quoted 1 line Chill out areas are cool, kind of a thing of the past it seems.
>Chill out areas are cool, kind of a thing of the past it seems.
I don't even remember the last time I saw a chill room at a party,
and yet *everyone* in the world loves them. I don't get it. Promoters? It
seems to me that a lot of the chin-scratchy IDM and micro stuff could be
the "new ambient" within that ravey context, though it might get too easily
drowned out by the 5000000 watts of booming deep house in the next room.
Lots of places to sit down comfortably in the dark and listen to chain
reaction at a party? Yes please!
quoted 6 lines DJs are glorified jukeboxes.
>>DJs are glorified jukeboxes.
>
>Bad ones are.
>
>You obviously don't know what you are talking about when it comes to good
>djs. Either that or your local area is filled with crap djs, and/or idm djs.
No, I know all too well what I'm talking about when it comes to
*most* DJs. Not all DJs are jukeboxes, just almost all. It's a complicated
craft, and there's some motor trickiness in getting everything lined up,
but generally it's just playing tunes. There's a few DJs out there who do
interesting things with vinyl, but the majority of the time, I am pretty
underwhelmed by the over-glorified art of DJing. I was more trying to point
out that this is pretty much just what the average laptop set consists of.
Yeah, some people are crazy interactive, but many are going song 1->song
2->song 3 and they could just as well be mixing acetates.
Ultimately, I don't even care that much. I would rather be in a
cool environment with an engaged crowd and something to look at or
something to do and hear good music. I'll take an ass-destroying "click
play" set of great music over watching some goa guys masturbate over a rack
of synths, wildly twisting knobs and arpeggiating left and right only to
produce some mediocre trance.
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