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From:
Chris Fahey
To:
'Ian Pojman' ,
Date:
Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:25:11 -0400
Subject:
RE: [idm] RE: Amen (was [idm] blade-runner/dune)
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quoted 3 lines From: Ian Pojman [mailto:ian@webice.net]> From: Ian Pojman [mailto:ian@webice.net] > allow me to remind you of the subjectivity of time signature! >
Of course. Time signatures are subjective in many ways: 1) 4/4 might easily be re-interpreted as 4/8 or 8/4 some other even multiple. 2) One can sample an incomplete portion of a 4/4 measure so that the sample becomes some other time signture. 3) Time signatures may repeat over several measures to become other time signatures (repeating 3/4 measures in sets of four makes what some might call 4/4 triplets and what others call simply a fast waltz). Patterns change when you zoom in and out of a score. etc... But I stand by my statement that Amen is 4/4, and if we accept time signature subjectivity as an argument to the contrary then we might as well stop talking about time signatures all together. Amen ain't 7/8 or 9/14 or anything, and it ain't free form. It's a funk record, and funk is almost without exception 4/4. Breakbeats typically trod all over the usually-steady beat of a funk track, breaking the clockwork and intruducing a great deal of syncopation and improvisation: but the foundation 4/4 rhythm is still there under all the drum flash, tick, tick, ticking away. That's what makes breakbeats so fun -they fuck up the beat but you can still dance to them. I think IDM fans (and critics) habitually confuse syncopation with time signature trickery to make themselves feel smarter. (I'm not saying you did, Ian) - Cf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org