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From:
steve
To:
Wendy K , Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune , Scott boy ,
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Date:
Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:46:05 -0800
Subject:
Re: [idm] Some gnutty words on napster
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actually you should boycott nike for paying korean 6 year olds to work 12 hours a day for pennies in sweat shops so that us consumers can have the latest fashions on our feet...but this is another story... Record companies do take a nice chunk of cash from artists but they also put some out. they basically function like a bank/marketing firm. they loan a band money (advance against future sales) to make a record and tour and then that gets paid back to them as the band sells records...hopefully. steve ----------
quoted 2 lines From: Wendy K <wendy@ninjatune.net>>From: Wendy K <wendy@ninjatune.net> >To: Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune <jeff@ninjatune.net>, "Scott boy"
<mckeating23@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
quoted 4 lines Cc: idm@hyperreal.org>Cc: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Some gnutty words on napster >Date: Mon, Jul 31, 2000, 12:02 PM >
quoted 24 lines yeah, and you wouldnt just loan some body your favourite pair of> yeah, and you wouldnt just loan some body your favourite pair of > nikes, addidas, vans, whatevers when they came up & asked you > would you? trainers? - what about jeans? why are levis charging > $100 for jeans they made 50 years ago? (well someone from japan > could probably answer that one...) > > At 6:47 pm +0100 31/7/00, Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune wrote: >>been through it before, the manufactured cost of a record/CD is not the >>only cost to a record company. Yeah major labels suck and the >>dispursement of profit is ridicously, but that's not my fault and there's >>so much info out their these days that I can't feel sorry for anyone >>finding themselves in a bad deal. People regularly pay $100 for a pair of >>shoes with no problems, what do you think the real cost of those is. >>Boycott Nike for not giving their shoes away! Bloody mafia those shoe >>companies I tell ya. >> >>Jeff >> >> >> >> >>However not all artist want to, and don't lump the entire music >> >>industry under one big shitty umbrella. >> > >> >Last time I checked the entire music industry is still charging a big
bundle
quoted 1 line of Lizzys for a product that doesn't cost a big bundle of Benjamins to>> >of Lizzys for a product that doesn't cost a big bundle of Benjamins to
make.
quoted 2 lines Is there a label not charging 4-5 quid a 12" and 13-15 quid a cd? The fact>> >Is there a label not charging 4-5 quid a 12" and 13-15 quid a cd? The fact >> >that some IDM artists aren't living the vida loca with their record deals
is
quoted 19 lines unfortunate, but if their "work" isn't paying them enough they should>> >unfortunate, but if their "work" isn't paying them enough they should >> >supplement it. This whole thing is a long time coming knee jerk to an >> >industry that is taking the piss. >> > >> >I know this argument is going in circles everytime it comes up. I guess >> >we'll see in 5-10 years which model works best for artist and customer (the >> >only vital parts in the process). >> >__________ >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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