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From:
Wendy K
To:
Josh Davison
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Date:
Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:09:39 +0100
Subject:
Re: [idm] samplism and the vibert thing
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josh - the NWA lyric & yr quote is correct. The artist is William DeVaughn, only short term memory loss and a crap record filing system prevent me from giving you the title of the track. The lyric goes "diamond in the back, sunroof top, kickin it lean like a ganster machine.... so of course it makes sense that NWA would boost up a ref like this. "White Lines" by Grandmaster Flash was a complete rip of "The Cavern" a little jazz funktual instrumental on 99 records as you correctly refer to it as beat-jacking which it was...Even Afrikaa Bambaattaa would fess to the influence of Kraftwerk Depeche Mode & Arthur Bakers remix work on New Order.. w: But take for example NWA's song Eight Ball -- they use a line from an old soul record about the "Diamond in the back, sunroof top" or something ( i have no idea who the artist is or if those are the actual lyrics ) ... anyway I think the way they worked the little reference to the song into the music is very creative, especially if you recognize the fact that when they would play the song live, there was actually a DJ dropping the actual phrase in from the original record as part of the song. Recognize also that the art of sampling and beat-jacking comes from the early days of hip hop when DJ's would create an entire track from using other artist's records, in real time on two turntables. This was not for lack of creativity, but for lack of funds and technology as many of the originators of hip hop did not have the cash resources to purchase "real instruments" and were inspired to make do with the tools at hand. coldcut on da radio mon nite 12am-2am gmt http://www.bbc.co.uk/londonlive http://www.worldtimezone.com zentertainment: wed nite 9pm - 3am http://www.piratetv.net http://www.ninjatune.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org