quoted 53 lines ....haa haa....let me try and change my pace so that some of you may better> ....haa haa....let me try and change my pace so that some of you may better
>understand me.
>
>Nearly most of you, I have discovered, are young cats, save a few. Coupled
>with the fact that nearly most of you are white, you only speak of
>documentaries.....articles, interviews, books--all of which are secondary
>information. How many of you can say that you went to basement parties when
>you were younger(or whatever type of party) and heard the DJ mixing Pocket
>Calculator or Numbers? Sure some of ya can, but how many can say I have
>experienced underground clubs where brothers dance to Hip hop and, at the
>drop of hat---"Jitt" to Techno...and then back again to Hip hop?..
>
>What about George Clinton and the many bands which he influenced. Who
>remembers his concerts when the entire place smelled like Dank, and black
>lights, strobe lights and lights of all colors dimly lit the stage? This is
>what Techno is all about, the past cats(people).... This is what Theo
>Parish, Eddie "Fucking" Fowlkes, the ROOTS, Alan and some others tried to
>teach the crowd at the DEMF...seems that few learned this.....by playing
>older music...but still rocking tha Fuck out of me and all of you, they
>attempted to show U that they are just teachers. With their Music as the
>lesson and the Soul as the crux, they taught us many things...and its funny
>when I think about it, because this form of learning(and also Dancing) goes
>back in many African cultures and civilizations(Native Americans too, and I
>met two cool ass Indian cats from Canada)....
>
>Some Jose cat on the 313 mentioned a club called The Outcast......Thats
>where you will find the true Techno....but with fear, coupled with white
>anxiety....you'll never see it! and my message will seem and sound as askew
>as all the other messages I have written.
>
>Frisco(San Franscico)---it has its good artists, but these artists havent
>went thru the same pains as Detroit artists(the tacit agreement by many
>people to overlook the FACT that African Americans catch HELL in AMerica is
>truly beyond me).
>
>My apologies though, for my way of communication is not the way to teach
>people. Me, angry isnt the word. Culturally plundering many of our art
>forms--such as Blues, Reggae, Jazz, etc.....the Machine--if you will--has
>ultimately controlled the distribution of music and thereby has adequately
>marketed it to the younger white population and not the younger African
>American population. It has grown exponentially as a result. But there
>remains a few proud Warriors who battle the giant, never selling themselves
>to the Machine....never selling out for the money, fame, glory, status and
>or recognition, who I had the pleasure of meeting.
>
>Galliant ass muthfuck'n NIGHTS many of you would relate to them as. They
>know the deal.....and some of U others know but it, but its only a
>few.......Now I hope all you treat this post as you treated all my others
>ones, dont respond............Just read it..
>
>
>
>p.s. I speak of Techno, not of what YOU call "electronic music"
erm, i spoke of "electronic music. i refuted the statement in the original
Time article that claimed that (paraphrasing): "Electronic music was born
in Detroit." that's just plain wrong. i can see how we're not talking
about the same thing at all here, but i don't think that's important to
Kelley right now.
i really think it's shitty of you to play the race card on this. i don't
need to be "taught," or to be compelled to "pay it all back." of course
every form of pop music in the 20 century stole most of their game from
black americans. everything after "techno" is no different. but there was
electronic music before Juan Atkins, right? right? maybe i'm wrong.
i know the impact that detroit had (or has) on the world of music, but i
don't need to pray in the direction of Detroit every time i hear an 808.
i've heard too much good electronic music from so many places.
it seems as if there's some sort of creepy revisionism coming round with
techno. i don't know if Kelley's line of thinking is common, but i'm
pretty concerned if it is. pretty soon we'll have OMD seeing Mayday
playing at Tresor before cutting their first full-length, and Raymond Scott .
-jeff
p.s. i bought a DJ Godfather mix CD today. pretty good, and i'm listening
to it right now. but the guy who sold it to me was white, so sorry about
that.
p.p.s. on a personal note, i find Kelley Hackett (online) to be childish,
petulant, and incapable of having a decent argument (often by virtue of not
arguing at all but simply raving about Detroit and Sheffield).
unfortunately, Kelley gets the distinction of being "that one guy" on this
particular list that i am incapable of ignoring. so, unless there's some
real discussion here about music i'll just let this be.
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