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From:
kent williams
To:
Zombiefly
Cc:
do id
Date:
Tue, 03 Mar 2015 13:52:57 +0000
Subject:
Re: Ableton Live Project for AFX Soundcloud files
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Let me know how it works out. I tested the procedure I documented for using the ASD warp files, but I don't know if it's clear enough. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:18 AM Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 65 lines thanks for that kent!> thanks for that kent! > i've added it to the Gdrive and will check it out as i'm a big ableton > user :) > On 3 March 2015 at 04:07, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If you use Ableton Live you know that when you load a track (or any >> sample basically) you can 'warp' the track, meaning you detect the proper >> track, mark where it starts, and as necessary, add 'warp' markers to keep >> the tracks in time. >> >> I've done this for the 174 files currently in Chris Tranter's AFX google >> doc tree. >> >> I've uploaded a Live project with JUST the ASD files (they tell Live what >> the tempo is, where the warp markers are, etc etc). >> http://www.cornwarning.com/xfer/AphexUnreleasedLiveProject.zip >> >> Chris, feel free to add this to that AFX Google drive folder. >> >> Observations after warping 174 files: >> >> 1. Tempos are almost all very consistent, making me think that he used >> accurate clock sources & DAT recordings from very early on. There are a >> very few with the telltale 'cassette stretch' tempo drift. >> >> 2. There are several with 'Sequencer Stop' pauses where he stops the >> master clock device, allows the effects to decay, and then restarts the >> sequence off beat. This blows Ableton Live's mind. I've fixed these as >> best I can, basically pinning a warp marker on the last beat and then >> dragging the point where the sequencer restarts to the next measure start. >> >> 3. Only a few had 'intergral' BPMs, i.e. 130, 140, etc. Meaning that the >> tempo clock was only accidentally set to an intergral tempo. Or the >> sequencer device and Ableton Live don't agree about intergral tempos. >> >> 4. A couple of them were unwarpable, and I gave up on those. >> >> 5. This set of songs was a torture test for Ableton Live's automatic >> warping, and I wasn't impressed, even by the new 9.2 beta version which >> supposedly improved automatic warping. It rarely found the downbeat >> properly, was confused by beatless intros etc. Even though the tracks have >> a very steady tempo. >> >> This was an interesting project to undertake, and it allowed me to >> 'needle' drop in every track. There's a lot of impressive tracks in this >> collection. I also warmed up to the harsher industrial tracks. Some of >> those are killer. >> >> > -- > _____________________________________________ > Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K > _____________________________________________ > noise I make: > http://www.soundcloud.com/pushkin > http://www.last.fm/music/Pushkin > > noise I like: > http://www.last.fm/user/zombiefly > > sites I run: > http://www.ctran.co.uk > http://o-fu-online.net > ------------------------------- >